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Subject: Re: Mr Hyatt compete with his program against Kasparov

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:06:51 01/15/04

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On January 15, 2004 at 22:57:40, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 22:27:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 22:23:01, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2004 at 20:38:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 17:11:08, John Paul Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 14:57:01, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 11:30:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 06:17:38, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have improved DeepSjeng much in kingsideattacks. That´s are really good
>>>>>>>>news.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But you know there is a lot to do to play good attackingchess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maybe i should post another position by Kasaparov?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should this turn into a kasparov did this well, kasparov blundered here
>>>>>>>type of "war"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Noooo!!!!! pleeeeease no war !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In response to your position, I'll offer game 2 in the DB 1997 match,
>>>>>>>where kasparov blundered and resigned in a drawn position.  My program
>>>>>>>won't resign there.  Does that make it better than Kasparov?  That kind
>>>>>>>of logic is simply flawed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, but i don´t like this kind of simple logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kasparov (and all other GM players) have played more than their share of
>>>>>>>blunders to go along with the brilliancies.  I don't think that just because
>>>>>>>a program will (or won't) play the same move says much about who is better.
>>>>>>>Single moves don't mean a lot.  Complete games do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes!!!, and as we know he is the highest rated player in the world, which means
>>>>>>that a has the most wins against the best players of the world. Do you believe
>>>>>>that your program can do it as well as Kasparov it did?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Crafty would not stand a prayer in anything longer then game in 15
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would not be surprised if it _won_ at anything under game/30.  And at
>>>>longer time controls it is _not_ easy to beat it there...  There's plenty
>>>>of evidence.  It has played GMs at long time controls more than once...
>>>
>>>Perhaps, Bob H., you should offer Kasparov a handicap.  Let him have several
>>>times as much time per move on average, but play blitz.
>>>
>>>I don't know how to pay the guy.  Maybe trick him into playing for free.  I
>>>don't know what else.  Say to Kasparov: "My chess program can give you odds and
>>>still whip you at blitz."  Maybe he would respond to that challenge just for the
>>>fun of it?
>>>
>>>: )
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>I've done that with Cray Blitz in the past.  I used to type moves in, play
>>5 minute vs 5 minute chess, and hardly ever lost a game.  Even with the
>>input/output time.  I had CB use 3 secs/move until it had used 1 minute, then
>>2 secs/move until it had used 2 minutes total (counting first minute) then down
>>to 1 sec per move.  It maybe lost one game out of 20 against GM players...
>>
>>I really don't care who believe who can beat who.  It is way too easy to
>>determine that on ICC for example.
>
>Only by inference, I assume.  I don't think Kasparov plays at ICC, but don't
>actually know for sure.  Maybe he prefers European servers or is afraid to
>reveal his opening preparation.
>
>Whatever.
>
>Bob D.


I'm talking about strong GMs in general.  IE I'm not certain Kasparov is the
best "blitz player" there is, for example...




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