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Subject: Re: (OT) Adams vs Zhong Zhang, Wijk aan Zee 2004 [ 17. Qc1 TN ]

Author: John Roberts

Date: 23:36:50 01/15/04

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On January 15, 2004 at 20:24:57, Brian Kostick wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 07:59:20, John Roberts wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 07:15:05, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>
>>> Please see ==> http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1272141
>>>
>>>AdrianP: 17. Qc1N! is a fantastic Adams novelty... impossible to spot,
>>>especially for a computer, but once you've seen it, it makes perfect sense. The
>>>Q dropping back kills off most of B's chances of counterplay but is ready to be
>>>re-deployed without much difficulty along the c1-h6 diagonal or along the 1st
>>>rank. But those are just incidental bonuses - the main point is clear when you
>>>look at the juicy N outposts on e4 and f6... to clear the d2 square for the b3 N
>>>(also slowing down B's potential counter-attack with the advance of the a-pawn).
>>>Beautiful move! It is very fitting that Adams converts his advantage in such a
>>>precise manner.
>>
>>Why don't we run some evals on it?  Maybe it'll turn up in the 22nd ply or at
>>least come in 2nd-5th, etc.
>>
>>Anyone up for it?  I think it's far from impossible!
>
>
>This is multi line infinite analysis after 15 ply. Qc1 as seen here is ranked
>6th by DF7 while a couple of other engines I tried didn't even give it that. We
>do know that it won against Zhong this day and I look forward to doing full game
>analysis. Regards, BK
>
>From: M. Adams - Z. Zhong, Corus 2004
>[D]r1r2bk1/1pqn1p1p/p2p2p1/3Pp1Pn/8/1N2BP1B/PPPQ3P/1K1R3R w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz 7:
>
>1. ± (0.88): 17.Nc1 Bg7 18.Bg4 a5 19.Ne2 f5 20.gxf6 Nhxf6 21.Be6+ Kh8 22.Nc3 a4
>23.Nb5
>2. ± (0.88): 17.Na5 f5 18.gxf6 Nhxf6 19.Be6+ Kh8 20.Rhf1 Bg7 21.Rde1 Rf8 22.f4
>Ne4
>3. ± (0.78): 17.Qd3 Bg7 18.Nd2 Nc5 19.Qc3 Nf4 20.Bxc8 Nxd5 21.Qa3 Nxe3
>4. ± (0.78): 17.Bg4 a5 18.Bxh5 gxh5 19.Qd3 a4 20.Nd2 a3 21.b3 Qc3 22.Qxc3
>5. ± (0.78): 17.Rhe1 a5 18.Nc1 a4 19.a3 Bg7 20.Bg4 b5 21.Nd3
>6. ± (0.75): 17.Qc1 Bg7 18.Nd2 b5 19.Ne4 b4 20.Qd2 Rab8 21.Bg4 f5 22.gxf6

Hi Brian, as you can see from my post at:

http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?342494

I like analysing for weeks on one position, and this is from my 3rd fastest home
computer, my 2nd fastest one is now on 1257 billion kNs.

I do this for the fun of it, and I realize people will say, "don't you know the
limitations of this...what a waste of time" but I'm having fun.

I would not be too surprised if:
a)Qc1 becomes the best line by 22 or 23 plies;
b)that Adams probably found it by running some program for weeks.

Certainly no one would have a problem believing this of Kasparov.

Try running just one line for weeks, then with the hashtables intact, you can
try two.



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