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Subject: Re: How strong is Chessmaster 6000?

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 07:15:53 11/29/98

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On November 29, 1998 at 08:46:00, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On November 29, 1998 at 07:12:12, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 1998 at 06:50:41, Georg Langrath wrote:
>>
>>>Sometimes I feel that all talk about strength is a joke. What is the difference
>>>between 2450 and 2500 if you are not a very strong player? Nevertheless also I
>>>am interested in strengthcompare. I think that we are kind of sick.
>>>
>>>Now my question. Has anybody played Chessmaster 5500 against Chessmaster 6000.
>>>In that way it would be possible to find if 6000 has got  a stronger engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>Georg
>>
>>
>>Ozso, a veteran computer handle on ICC runs CM5500 and says this in its notes:
>>
>>"2: CM6k has stronger books than 55, but a 10% weaker engine"
>>
>>Amir
>
>Even though I respect you highly Amir and your program. I think to myself you
>are spreading rumours given by some old chess player giving his opinion which I
>think is way off, and I believe you know this too.
>
>I think he is wrong. Mindscape said their engine is stronger, not just the book
>making it stronger.
>
>I was going to say that you being a rival programmer, saying that CM5500 is
>stronger than the new CM6000, which is also competing against your program.
>might make people think to forget about getting CM6000, when it is weaker than
>it previous version and maybe buy your program instead.
>
>I think especially if someone has something to gain from making comments on how
>strong a program is, especially if it has a negative angle, they should back it
>up with facts. and not just write someones else's opinions.
>
>Maybe I am off the mark Amir, but that is how I feel about it. But I will I will
>leave your responsibilities and comments up to you.
>
>I mean no offence on what you write Amir, but I got the impression that you
>spreading rumours and not facts.
>
>I apolagise if this sounds like I am having ago at you. I do not want to, but
>just wanted to get my view across. I also suppose I gain alot from one line you
>write :)
>
>Thanks


I was just trying to be helpful, and quoted something I recently saw. That was
the only opinion on cm5500/cm6000 strength comparison I've ever seen, so you got
the complete and uncensored report.

Take the quote on the authority of the one who said it. I only quoted what
someone else says, which I (or anyone else) can say without myself having any
opinion on this matter. It's not a "rumour". Why call it so, when I've given you
source and exact quote ? Ask him if you wish.

I don't have a real first-hand opinion on this myself. I don't own either
program (I do have cm4000 though. I won't make the mistake of praising it. That
would really get me some angry posts :)). It's interesting in a general sense,
but it's not of great importance to me. I understand from what you write that
I'm supposed to have a business interest in making this newsgroup believe one
side of this, but I haven't given this thought until now, and I don't really see
what this interest might be.

Amir



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