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Subject: Re: Chess Server equals "Blitz" : - ) [Actually, very True.] (n.t.)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:58:28 01/16/04

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On January 16, 2004 at 09:53:58, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 23:06:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 22:57:40, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2004 at 22:27:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 22:23:01, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 20:38:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 17:11:08, John Paul Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 14:57:01, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 11:30:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 06:17:38, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You have improved DeepSjeng much in kingsideattacks. That´s are really good
>>>>>>>>>>news.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But you know there is a lot to do to play good attackingchess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Maybe i should post another position by Kasaparov?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Should this turn into a kasparov did this well, kasparov blundered here
>>>>>>>>>type of "war"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Noooo!!!!! pleeeeease no war !!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In response to your position, I'll offer game 2 in the DB 1997 match,
>>>>>>>>>where kasparov blundered and resigned in a drawn position.  My program
>>>>>>>>>won't resign there.  Does that make it better than Kasparov?  That kind
>>>>>>>>>of logic is simply flawed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sorry, but i don´t like this kind of simple logic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kasparov (and all other GM players) have played more than their share of
>>>>>>>>>blunders to go along with the brilliancies.  I don't think that just because
>>>>>>>>>a program will (or won't) play the same move says much about who is better.
>>>>>>>>>Single moves don't mean a lot.  Complete games do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes!!!, and as we know he is the highest rated player in the world, which means
>>>>>>>>that a has the most wins against the best players of the world. Do you believe
>>>>>>>>that your program can do it as well as Kasparov it did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Crafty would not stand a prayer in anything longer then game in 15
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would not be surprised if it _won_ at anything under game/30.  And at
>>>>>>longer time controls it is _not_ easy to beat it there...  There's plenty
>>>>>>of evidence.  It has played GMs at long time controls more than once...
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps, Bob H., you should offer Kasparov a handicap.  Let him have several
>>>>>times as much time per move on average, but play blitz.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know how to pay the guy.  Maybe trick him into playing for free.  I
>>>>>don't know what else.  Say to Kasparov: "My chess program can give you odds and
>>>>>still whip you at blitz."  Maybe he would respond to that challenge just for the
>>>>>fun of it?
>>>>>
>>>>>: )
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob D.
>>>>
>>>>I've done that with Cray Blitz in the past.  I used to type moves in, play
>>>>5 minute vs 5 minute chess, and hardly ever lost a game.  Even with the
>>>>input/output time.  I had CB use 3 secs/move until it had used 1 minute, then
>>>>2 secs/move until it had used 2 minutes total (counting first minute) then down
>>>>to 1 sec per move.  It maybe lost one game out of 20 against GM players...
>>>>
>>>>I really don't care who believe who can beat who.  It is way too easy to
>>>>determine that on ICC for example.
>>>
>>>Only by inference, I assume.  I don't think Kasparov plays at ICC, but don't
>>>actually know for sure.  Maybe he prefers European servers or is afraid to
>>>reveal his opening preparation.
>>>
>>>Whatever.
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>
>>I'm talking about strong GMs in general.  IE I'm not certain Kasparov is the
>>best "blitz player" there is, for example...
>
>Chess Server equals "Blitz"  : - )  [Actually, very True.]    (n.t.)
>
>Bob D.


I'm thinking "blitz" --> 5 minute chess, no increment, whether played on a
server on OTB...




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