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Subject: Re: Chess Vendor Posting on CCC Surreptitiously

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 19:10:15 01/16/04

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On January 16, 2004 at 12:16:56, José Carlos wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 21:35:59, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>To All CCC Memebers:
>>
>>We toasted Swartz on January 7th and Caissa signed on the very next day.
>>
>>Even though the IPs are different, the HTTP_USER_AGENT for both of them is
>>identical: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
>>
>>For the entire year there were only 6 that were identical to that of the 1000's
>>of signups.
>>
>>The email address that Caissa uses directs one to a site that is sponsored by
>>Chess Central and only Chess Central sells product there.
>>
>>Gary Swartz posted 9 times before he was toasted:
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=315282
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333630
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333733
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333777
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=335464
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340382
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340455
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340497
>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340597
>>
>>All but one was a flagrant advertisement for either Chess Central or Chess
>>Exchange.
>>
>>Swartz had as his username and city:
>>User name: ChessMagic
>>City: San Antonio TX
>>
>>Caissa has as his username and city:
>>User name: ChessBrain
>>City: Texas
>>
>>Please boycott Chess Central and Chess Exchange for violating and totally
>>disrespecting our Charter.
>>
>>Please report any repeated posts promoting Chess Central or Chess Exchange.
>>Anyone posting a post that promotes Chess Central or Chess Exchange will
>>permanently banned without any warning.  This organization is willfully
>>violating our charter for their  own financial gain.
>>
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Michael Byrne
>
>  This is just a question, no accusation or complaint whatsoever: isn't Frank
>Quisinsky's posts selling Ruffian also a violation of the charter?
>
>  José C.

I guess it might be - I never thought about it - nobody has ever complained
about it.  We do not exactly look for problems where none exist and nobody
complains.  As you state, you ae not making an accusation or complaint whatsover
either.  The proper way to complain is to contact  the CCC modetaotrs via an
email - not to post acomplaint about someone else's post. We may not read it.
We do not lurk here 24 hours  a day looking for posts to delete and I certainly
do not read every post.

There is also difference between the two posts.   Posts from programmers about
new release of their program can be construed as an informative if done properly
and not repetitvely.  Posts from a vendor acting as if he someeone else ,
repeated over a period of time with essentialy the same message  and who ignores
requests to stop is totally different.  I am sure if we asked Frank to stop , he
would never make another post here again, period - is that what you want?



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