Author: margolies,marc
Date: 10:37:00 01/17/04
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your post is unfair and unequal,Jose. This board is designed to meet the needs of programmers and software users. This board is **not** designed to meet the advertising needs of competing vendors, who can afford their own boards. The two groups should not be treated equally here. They should be treated equally in Law. Posting here is a social contract to obey the rules here. It is not a fundamental human rights issue. And targeting Frank Quisinsky to suffer flack over this commercial imbroglio is an unfair sideshow. It has nothing to do with equality whatsoever! Is it your ambition to advertise here then? Are you setting Frank up as a straw man to give yourself some special future license? You might find my question unfair, but if you can publicly raise the issue of Frank, who are you really talking about and why aren't you fair game too? On January 17, 2004 at 04:08:59, José Carlos wrote: >On January 16, 2004 at 22:10:15, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On January 16, 2004 at 12:16:56, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On January 15, 2004 at 21:35:59, Mike Byrne wrote: >>> >>>>To All CCC Memebers: >>>> >>>>We toasted Swartz on January 7th and Caissa signed on the very next day. >>>> >>>>Even though the IPs are different, the HTTP_USER_AGENT for both of them is >>>>identical: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6) >>>> >>>>For the entire year there were only 6 that were identical to that of the 1000's >>>>of signups. >>>> >>>>The email address that Caissa uses directs one to a site that is sponsored by >>>>Chess Central and only Chess Central sells product there. >>>> >>>>Gary Swartz posted 9 times before he was toasted: >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=315282 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333630 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333733 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=333777 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=335464 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340382 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340455 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340497 >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=340597 >>>> >>>>All but one was a flagrant advertisement for either Chess Central or Chess >>>>Exchange. >>>> >>>>Swartz had as his username and city: >>>>User name: ChessMagic >>>>City: San Antonio TX >>>> >>>>Caissa has as his username and city: >>>>User name: ChessBrain >>>>City: Texas >>>> >>>>Please boycott Chess Central and Chess Exchange for violating and totally >>>>disrespecting our Charter. >>>> >>>>Please report any repeated posts promoting Chess Central or Chess Exchange. >>>>Anyone posting a post that promotes Chess Central or Chess Exchange will >>>>permanently banned without any warning. This organization is willfully >>>>violating our charter for their own financial gain. >>>> >>>>Thank You. >>>> >>>>Michael Byrne >>> >>> This is just a question, no accusation or complaint whatsoever: isn't Frank >>>Quisinsky's posts selling Ruffian also a violation of the charter? >>> >>> José C. >> >>I guess it might be - I never thought about it - nobody has ever complained >>about it. We do not exactly look for problems where none exist and nobody >>complains. As you state, you ae not making an accusation or complaint whatsover >>either. The proper way to complain is to contact the CCC modetaotrs via an >>email - not to post acomplaint about someone else's post. We may not read it. >>We do not lurk here 24 hours a day looking for posts to delete and I certainly >>do not read every post. >> >>There is also difference between the two posts. Posts from programmers about >>new release of their program can be construed as an informative if done properly >>and not repetitvely. Posts from a vendor acting as if he someeone else , >>repeated over a period of time with essentialy the same message and who ignores >>requests to stop is totally different. I am sure if we asked Frank to stop , he >>would never make another post here again, period - is that what you want? > > Thanks for your explanation. The advertisment part of the charter is by far >the less clear to me. I've been seeing ads here since I came for the first time >(in 1999 I think) and I still can't clearly differenciate which are against the >charter and which aren't. Hence my question. > And to your question, no I don't want to prevent Frank to do advertisments >here. Actually I don't have much of a problem with ads. But I'd like that all >people are treated equally to be fair to everyone. > > José C.
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