Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 02:14:22 01/18/04
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On January 18, 2004 at 04:38:53, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On January 18, 2004 at 03:47:25, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On January 17, 2004 at 22:45:42, Richard Sutherland wrote: >> >>>On January 17, 2004 at 18:11:58, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>> >>>>On January 17, 2004 at 17:15:28, John Paul Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>>Has more knowledge been added or is it simply faster? >>>> >>>>Clever question, when i combine it with the subject of the post. >>>> >>>>Anyway Shredder 8 is probably both faster and more wise from it's predecessor >>>>version. As Sandro Necchi, a man who makes Shredder's books, said that this >>>>version of Shredder is the best ever. >>> >>> >>> >>>Of course he would say that, he wants you to buy it. >> >>Not really, because it is a matter of credibility. >> >>If I say something not real people will not trust me anymore. >> >>Uri had to admit that for Shredder 7.0 and 7.04 I was right with my >>expectations. >>Previously I was wrong with Shredder 5, but I was referring something from a >>friend of mine, not from my own tests. This is why lately I made tests >>personally too! >> >>The testings tells Shredder 8 is at least more than 50 points stronger than >>S7.04 >> >>I have runned a match against Deep Fritz 8 at 90 minutes games (on equal >>hardware) and a friend of mine at 40/2+20/1h (with Deep Fritz 8 running on a >>twice faster computer thant Shredder 8 preliminary version) and Shredder 8 won >>both matches. It is better not to give details to avoid "strange" >>comments...sorry but I am too involved, so I better stay as general as I can. >> >>The indications were that Shredder 8 was stronger than 7.04 more than 50 points >>(with the same CB GUI), but since these games together were less than 300 we >>cannot consider tham too reliable. >>So a 50 points increase seems more realistic to me. I am too busy working on the >>book improvements to make too many test games. The time available to work on the >>book is limited and I have to optimize the use of it. The stronger the programs >>become the more difficult and accurate the moves selection must be and to find >>novelties as well. >> >>However here, in this forum, there are indipendent testers and they will be able >>to tell if I am correct or not with these expectations. >>Of course the most reliable result is the SSDF list. >> >>As I said, for me to make the opening books is a hobby and a challenge at the >>same time. >>If it was for the money I get from this hobby I would have even never started at >>all! > > Now what i would like to see is a man versus Shredder match. We see that >Shredder is probably the top in comp-comp games and it's boring:) to win every >computer tournament, so now it's time to show it's strength against a really >strong GM, even Kasparov. I fully agree that it is time to face a strong GM or Kasparov if he is willing to. I do not agree that it is boring to win every computer tournament if we are the ones that win:-)...Sounds strange?:-) In reality we did win many, but not all. I have been waiting for facing Kasparov or another top GM and worked as well! We have improved the program for any chess opponents, not only computer chess programs...if the improvement is real it works agains everybody... Sandro
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