Author: Christian Koch
Date: 04:23:54 01/18/04
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Hi, perhaps I will test Shredder 8 vs. Ruffian Leiden with their own books next week. On January 18, 2004 at 06:27:12, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On January 18, 2004 at 06:20:27, Christian Koch wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I want to test the chess engines, not the books. Did you have a look at the >>games? > >OK, but supposed you get with your tests that program A is stronger than program >B by 50 points, testing them without books. > >Now if you test them with their books and you get that program B is stronger >than program A by 50 points, would you think that the book of program B gives >100 points more than the book of program A? > >I do not think this would be the case, so I think these testings can only mean >that in these specific positions program A play stronger than program B. > >I know a few games do not mean much, but I made similar tests many years ago and >stop making them because I thought I could only get specific data and not >general data. > >This is why I am telling you. > >Sandro >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>this is interesting, but testing one program against another one giving selected >>>positions does not give a true figure of the programs strenght, in my opinion. >>> >>>The reason why I have been working so long, and still am, on the books is that >>>some programs like some positions and do not like others. This is why even the >>>best program cannot play best in all positions and one needs to have at least >>>the best 4 (in my opinion) if using them to test/check positions to get the most >>>from chess programs. >>> >>>If the selected positions are more suiting the style of one program than the >>>other chess program than the first one may win, but the real test (to me) is to >>>test them with their own books as the opening book is part of the program; a >>>very important part. To test with a different book and/or with a book we should >>>not use the same name as well as it would be like test the Ferrari with the >>>engine made for another car or a different shape...it is not the Ferrari >>>anymore... >>> >>>This is my opionion based on my experience. >>> >>>Sandro
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