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Subject: Re: Shredder losing in spite of +2.98

Author: David H. McClain

Date: 06:29:43 01/18/04

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On January 18, 2004 at 08:37:19, Harald Faber wrote:

>In my few idle time I am testing Shredder 8 on tournament level versus Junior 8
>(because I will operate Junior 8 in the computerchess tournament in Bernburg in
>March this year). While playing I became witness of this interesting game:
>
>[Event "Junior8 Vorbereitung, 120'/40+0'/0+60'"]
>[Site "CELERON1400"]
>[Date "2004.01.18"]
>[Round "2"]
>[White "Shredder 8"]
>[Black "Junior 8"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "B66"]
>[Annotator "-0.12;-0.18"]
>[PlyCount "96"]
>[TimeControl "40/7200:0/0:3600"]

Harald,

The "horizon effect" you have demonstarted does not surprise me.  I have seen
this quite often with Shredder 7.04 and it appears the same is happening with
Shredder 8.  I have drawn "won" games while being as high as +3.07 with Shredder
7 and on rare occasions have lost similar games.

I just finised a game with epanek2's CT 15 on ICC that indicated for a few moves
I was about +2.87 to a draw conclusion.  I don't record these games to post and
have no technical explanation why one program see this and another doesn't.
When other programs are "whispering" during play, especially CT 15's eval, the
difference of evals is very evident.  Consequently I don't pay too much
attention to my Shredder 7 eval until a more conclusive end is in sight.  Among
the other programs I play against I find CT 15 eval to be much more accurate and
consistent.

DHM



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