Author: William Penn
Date: 06:40:32 01/18/04
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On January 18, 2004 at 03:47:25, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On January 17, 2004 at 22:45:42, Richard Sutherland wrote: > >>On January 17, 2004 at 18:11:58, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On January 17, 2004 at 17:15:28, John Paul Jones wrote: >>> >>>>Has more knowledge been added or is it simply faster? >>> >>>Clever question, when i combine it with the subject of the post. >>> >>>Anyway Shredder 8 is probably both faster and more wise from it's predecessor >>>version. As Sandro Necchi, a man who makes Shredder's books, said that this >>>version of Shredder is the best ever. >> >> >> >>Of course he would say that, he wants you to buy it. > >Not really, because it is a matter of credibility. > >If I say something not real people will not trust me anymore. > >Uri had to admit that for Shredder 7.0 and 7.04 I was right with my >expectations. >Previously I was wrong with Shredder 5, but I was referring something from a >friend of mine, not from my own tests. This is why lately I made tests >personally too! > >The testings tells Shredder 8 is at least more than 50 points stronger than >S7.04 > >I have runned a match against Deep Fritz 8 at 90 minutes games (on equal >hardware) and a friend of mine at 40/2+20/1h (with Deep Fritz 8 running on a >twice faster computer thant Shredder 8 preliminary version) and Shredder 8 won >both matches. It is better not to give details to avoid "strange" >comments...sorry but I am too involved, so I better stay as general as I can. > >The indications were that Shredder 8 was stronger than 7.04 more than 50 points >(with the same CB GUI), but since these games together were less than 300 we >cannot consider tham too reliable. >So a 50 points increase seems more realistic to me. I am too busy working on the >book improvements to make too many test games. The time available to work on the >book is limited and I have to optimize the use of it. The stronger the programs >become the more difficult and accurate the moves selection must be and to find >novelties as well. > >However here, in this forum, there are indipendent testers and they will be able >to tell if I am correct or not with these expectations. >Of course the most reliable result is the SSDF list. > >As I said, for me to make the opening books is a hobby and a challenge at the >same time. >If it was for the money I get from this hobby I would have even never started at >all! > >Sandro Congratulations on your excellent work with the Shredder 7 opening book! I have used it with good success. I look forward to trying Shredder 8 and your new opening book which should arrive next week. Occasionally I find a small technical error in the opening book. Do you want those sent to you by email? I can understand if you don't want your mailbox stuffed, but I probably don't find more than 1 per month (on average). WP
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