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Subject: Re: shredder 8 and weird PVs? (sandro?)

Author: William Penn

Date: 07:04:42 01/18/04

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On January 18, 2004 at 07:23:38, martin fierz wrote:

>On January 18, 2004 at 06:02:26, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2004 at 05:53:49, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>i just received my brand-new shredder 8. when using it for analysis in chessbase
>>>(which is in fact the only thing i use it for), it often gives PVs which are
>>>completely ridiculous - the first few moves are ok, then one side blunders a
>>>piece according to the PV, but the evaluation of that line doesn't show it.
>>>looks like there is a PV bug in shredder 8? is there any fix for this? i find it
>>>very annoying...
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>  martin
>>
>>I do not have my own CB version yet.
>>
>>I saw that this does not happen in the UCI interface.
>which unfortunately is not included in shredder8 :-(
>
>>I do not think after 4 or 5 plies the moves are too reliable as on longer time
>>it may will find something better, but not always.
>it had nothing to do with "4 or 5 plies". in a level position it displayed
>something like +0.3 for white, but the PV behind this position simply blunders a
>piece. but - i'm sorry! - i forgot to save the position. if i ever see this
>happen again, i will keep it. of course it is quite likely that S8 saw something
>i overlooked...
>despite this i wrote my post because i saw another post mentioning nonsense
>variations in S7.
>
>cheers
>  martin

Nonsense variations in Shredder704.eng analysis in infinite analysis mode (the
only way I use it) are standard fare. I have come to the conclusion that only
the first move (the best candidate move) can be trusted. Perhaps it costs too
much time & energy, reducing the engine's strenth, to pare the variations
accurately. I don't know. The engine is still strong, despite this, but of
course I wish the analysis was more accurate. It sounds like the same thing is
continued into Shredder 8, but I won't know til I get my copy next week.
WP




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