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Subject: Re: Can white win?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 13:51:41 01/18/04

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On January 18, 2004 at 16:36:21, martin fierz wrote:

>On January 18, 2004 at 15:21:29, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>[snip]
>>>
>>>[D]8/8/5pk1/5b2/7K/3R3p/7P/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>I'm 99% sure that this is a draw. Why? If Black gets his B to g2, he can afford
>>to lose the f-pawn provided his K is not confined to the edge. It's a
>>theoretical draw then. Since it is not clear at all that White can even win the
>>f-pawn in the 1st place, a win seems highly doubtful to me.
>
>dvoretzki's endgame manual gives a position with black h3, Bg2 against white h2
>+ rook and says it's a win. in that position, the black king is already confined
>a bit in the h8-corner - but not dramatically. anyway, according to the winning
>plan given for pawns on h3 vs h4, white doesn't want to confine black's king in
>any way - just force him *very* far away towards the pawns and capture the black
>pawn with the rook. so... i don't know whether you are right about the
>theoretical draw. 6-man EGTBs would surely be helpful here :-)
>
>cheers
>  martin

There is a similar ending in the Karsten & Lamprecht book where Velimirovic
misplayed the ending and lost in the same way. Such wins where the Black K is
not confined are exceptional.



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