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Subject: Horrible playing by Shredder 8

Author: John Griffin

Date: 04:42:54 01/19/04

I left Shredder 8 running yesterday at FICS to test it out and see how it would
do and when I came back I was shocked it had lost 10 games straight to Shredder
7.04 playing on an AMD 2200+ and the hardware I was using was 2x AMD 2000+ and I
decided to examine some of the games and it seemed that Shredder was just giving
pieces away for free and playing really weird I have 4 games out of the 10 to
show how bad it was playing is it a bug or something causing it to play like
this? has anyone else experienced this type of thing aswell? any info will be
appreciated. Thanks

[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2004.01.19"]
[Round "Shredder 7.04"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black ""]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2575"]
[BlackElo "2647"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Bf4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Qe7 7. a3
Ngxe5 8. Nxe5 Nxe5 9. e3 Bxd2+ 10. Qxd2 d6 11. Be2 O-O 12. O-O b6 13. b4
Bb7 14. Qc3 Ng6 15. Bg3 Nh4 16. c5 dxc5 17. bxc5 Nf5 18. Bf4 bxc5 19. Rac1
Nh4 20. f3 Ng6 21. Bg3 Rfe8 22. e4 c6 23. Qe3 Nf8 24. Rxc5 Ne6 25. Rf5 a5
26. Qc3 Ba6 27. Bxa6 Qa7+ 28. Rc5 Nxc5 29. Bf2 Nxe4 30. Bxa7 Nxc3 31. Re1
Rxe1+ 32. Kf2 Rc1 33. Ke3 Nb1
*

[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2004.01.19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "Shredder 8"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2653"]
[BlackElo "2569"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]

1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. c4 Bg7 5. Nc3 O-O 6. Nh3 d6 7. d5 Nbd7 8.
O-O Ne5 9. b3 c5 10. Bb2 Nfg4 11. Qd2 Bd7 12. Ng5 Qa5 13. Rad1 Rae8 14. h3
Nf6 15. e3 h6 16. Ne6 Bxe6 17. dxe6 Kh7 18. Qc2 Nc6 19. a3 Nd8 20. Nd5 Nxe6
21. b4 Qd8 22. Nxf6+ Bxf6 23. Bxf6 Rxf6 24. Qa4 cxb4 25. axb4 a5 26. bxa5
Nc5 27. Qb5 Qb6
*
*

[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2004.01.19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "Shredder 7.04"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2563"]
[BlackElo "2659"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]

1. c4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Bf4 Nf6 4. e3 Bf5 5. Nc3 e6 6. Nf3 Qb6 7. Qc1 Be7 8.
Be2 O-O 9. O-O Nbd7 10. c5 Qd8 11. Qd1 Ne4 12. Nxe4 dxe4 13. Ne5 Nxe5 14.
Bxe5 Bf6 15. Bg3 Qd5 16. Qc2 Qd7 17. a4 Rad8 18. a5 a6 19. Qb3 Rfe8 20. Ra4
e5 21. dxe5 Bxe5 22. Rd1 Be6 23. Rxd7 Bxb3 24. Rxd8 Rxd8 25. Rb4 Bd1 26.
Bxe5 Bxe2 27. Rxb7 Rd1#
*

[Event "ICS Rated blitz match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2004.01.19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "Shredder 7.04"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2531"]
[BlackElo "2691"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 e6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. g3 Qc7 7. Bg2 Nf6 8.
O-O Be7 9. Re1 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Bc5 11. Qd1 d6 12. Be3 e5 13. Bxc5 Qxc5 14.
Qd2 O-O 15. Qe3 Qc6 16. Rad1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rad8 18. Nd5 Bxd5 19. exd5 Qc5 20.
Re2 Ng4 21. b4 Qb6 22. a3 a5 23. bxa5 Qxa5 24. Rb1 Qa7 25. Bh3 f5 26. Bxg4
fxg4 27. Qf5 Rxf5 28. Rb6 Qxb6 29. Re3 Qxe3
*

Your setup must have been awful. Theres nothing wrong with Shredder 8! Anson T J 07:40:23 01/20/04
Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 William Penn 16:03:42 01/19/04
- Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 Thao Tak-Sen 21:10:11 01/19/04
  - Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 William Penn 04:52:40 01/20/04
Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 John Griffin 15:55:45 01/19/04
- Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 Michel Langeveld 21:07:39 01/19/04
Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 John Griffin 08:57:00 01/19/04
Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 ludicrous 08:24:58 01/19/04
- Re: Horrible playing by Shredder 8 ludicrous 08:27:33 01/19/04
  - I would like to know if all these bad results stuart taylor 11:58:41 01/19/04
    - Re: I would like to know if all these bad results Wayne Lowrance 14:54:29 01/19/04
      - Re: I would like to know if all these bad results stuart taylor 16:24:10 01/19/04

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