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Subject: Re: Top Ten in Blitz Follow up

Author: Paul Doire

Date: 15:14:29 01/19/04

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On January 19, 2004 at 18:05:35, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 19, 2004 at 16:47:04, Paul Doire wrote:
>
>>On January 19, 2004 at 16:26:57, Paul Doire wrote:
>>
>>>PIII 450, WINSE, 256 RAM
>>>CHESSBASE GUI, 32 MB RAM HASH,
>>>PONDER OFF, FRITZ7.CTG
>>>
>>>Fritz book used for its size other tourneys utilized smaller
>>>higher ELO books.
>>>Also Shredder 704 was using special settings Haddad 1.2DP5,
>>>which I obtained from
>>>http://members.lycos.co.uk/chesslovers/zied/
>>>
>>>I also ran identical tourney on Celeron 542 Mhz
>>>with Shredder at default. Post to follow.
>>>
>>>Ratings were assigned using Fritz 8 at 2753 per SSDF.
>>>
>>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg, Shr1.2DP5 ,5mi  2004
>>>
>>>                                  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   0
>>>1   Chess Tiger 15.0  2771    +3  *** ½1½ 11½ ½½½ 01½ 0½½ ½11 10½ 101 110
>>>16.5/27  219.50
>>>2   Fritz 8           2771    +3  ½0½ *** 0½1 11½ 1½½ ½½0 111 ½½0 11½ 110
>>>16.5/27  213.25
>>>3   Deep Fritz 8      2771    +3  00½ 1½0 *** 0½½ ½10 11½ 111 ½11 101 101
>>>16.5/27  207.75
>>>4   Ruffian 2.0.0     2714     0  ½½½ 00½ 1½½ *** ½00 ½½1 ½½0 ½11 ½11 ½01
>>>14.0/27
>>>5   Shredder 7.04     2703     0  10½ 0½½ ½01 ½11 *** ½01 ½01 ½10 0½½ ½10
>>>13.5/27
>>>6   Deep Fritz 7      2681    -1  1½½ ½½1 00½ ½½0 ½10 *** 00½ ½½½ ½½1 ½½½
>>>12.5/27  169.75
>>>7   Junior 8          2681    -1  ½00 000 000 ½½1 ½10 11½ *** 0½1 ½½½ 111
>>>12.5/27  153.00
>>>8   Hiarcs 9          2658    -1  01½ ½½1 ½00 ½00 ½01 ½½½ 1½0 *** 001 ½½½
>>>11.5/27
>>>9   Deep Junior 8     2647    -2  010 00½ 010 ½00 1½½ ½½0 ½½½ 110 *** ½01
>>>11.0/27
>>>10  The King 3.23     2635    -2  001 001 010 ½10 ½01 ½½½ 000 ½½½ ½10 ***
>>>10.5/27
>>>
>>>Average elo: 2703 <=> Category: 19
>>>gm = 9.72 m = 4.32
>>
>>Second tournament
>>Shredder 704 default
>>Ratings were assigned using Fritz 8 at 2753 per SSDF.
>>
>>Note Elo top to bottom difference 136 1st tournament
>>Note Elo top to bottom difference 120 2nd tournament
>>
>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg,ShredDef, 5min-  2004
>>
>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg,ShredDef, 5min-  2004
>>
>>                                  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   0
>>1   Shredder 7.04     2764    +2  *** ½½1 ½½1 11½ 0½½ 10½ ½½½ ½01 11½ 0½1
>>16.0/27
>>2   Fritz 8           2753    +1  ½½0 *** 10½ 111 ½11 0½0 010 ½11 1½½ 01½
>>15.5/27  205.00
>>3   Hiarcs 9          2753    +1  ½½0 01½ *** ½10 ½½½ 111 ½½0 0½1 110 ½11
>>15.5/27  201.25
>>4   Chess Tiger 15.0  2742     0  00½ 000 ½01 *** ½1½ ½½½ 1½1 01½ 111 11½
>>15.0/27
>>5   Deep Fritz 8      2730    +1  1½½ ½00 ½½½ ½0½ *** ½½1 10½ 11½ 0½1 101
>>14.5/27
>>6   Junior 8          2708     0  01½ 1½1 000 ½½½ ½½0 *** ½1½ 111 10½ 0½0
>>13.5/27
>>7   Deep Junior 8     2686    -1  ½½½ 101 ½½1 0½0 01½ ½0½ *** 01½ 00½ 101
>>12.5/27
>>8   Deep Fritz 7      2652    -2  ½10 ½00 1½0 10½ 00½ 000 10½ *** ½0½ 111
>>11.0/27  146.00
>>9   Ruffian 2.0.0     2652    -2  00½ 0½½ 001 000 1½0 01½ 11½ ½1½ *** ½0½
>>11.0/27  144.75
>>10  The King 3.23     2640    -2  1½0 10½ ½00 00½ 010 1½1 010 000 ½1½ ***
>>10.5/27
>>
>>Average elo: 2708 <=> Category: 19
>>gm = 9.72 m = 4.32
>>
>>Looks like Shredder 7.04 Default is stronger per this group of games.
>
>
>
>No, you cannot conclude that. You do not have enough games for any statistical
>evidence.
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Hi Christophe,

I did clearly "say per this group of games"....I also have about 350 more with
Shredder at Haddad 1.2DP5 which shows Default to be stronger, that I have posted
here in the past. The post was not to attest to statitistical evidence.
Again this is my experience in my games, I am not making judgements.

I enjoy Chess Tiger 15's play and have since Chess Tiger 12.

Please everyone draw your own conclusions.

Regards,
Paul

Regards,
Paul



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