Author: Paul Doire
Date: 19:09:57 01/19/04
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On January 19, 2004 at 21:51:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On January 19, 2004 at 21:35:00, Ed Panek wrote: > >>On January 19, 2004 at 18:05:35, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On January 19, 2004 at 16:47:04, Paul Doire wrote: >>> >>>>On January 19, 2004 at 16:26:57, Paul Doire wrote: >>>> >>>>>PIII 450, WINSE, 256 RAM >>>>>CHESSBASE GUI, 32 MB RAM HASH, >>>>>PONDER OFF, FRITZ7.CTG >>>>> >>>>>Fritz book used for its size other tourneys utilized smaller >>>>>higher ELO books. >>>>>Also Shredder 704 was using special settings Haddad 1.2DP5, >>>>>which I obtained from >>>>>http://members.lycos.co.uk/chesslovers/zied/ >>>>> >>>>>I also ran identical tourney on Celeron 542 Mhz >>>>>with Shredder at default. Post to follow. >>>>> >>>>>Ratings were assigned using Fritz 8 at 2753 per SSDF. >>>>> >>>>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg, Shr1.2DP5 ,5mi 2004 >>>>> >>>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 >>>>>1 Chess Tiger 15.0 2771 +3 *** ½1½ 11½ ½½½ 01½ 0½½ ½11 10½ 101 110 >>>>>16.5/27 219.50 >>>>>2 Fritz 8 2771 +3 ½0½ *** 0½1 11½ 1½½ ½½0 111 ½½0 11½ 110 >>>>>16.5/27 213.25 >>>>>3 Deep Fritz 8 2771 +3 00½ 1½0 *** 0½½ ½10 11½ 111 ½11 101 101 >>>>>16.5/27 207.75 >>>>>4 Ruffian 2.0.0 2714 0 ½½½ 00½ 1½½ *** ½00 ½½1 ½½0 ½11 ½11 ½01 >>>>>14.0/27 >>>>>5 Shredder 7.04 2703 0 10½ 0½½ ½01 ½11 *** ½01 ½01 ½10 0½½ ½10 >>>>>13.5/27 >>>>>6 Deep Fritz 7 2681 -1 1½½ ½½1 00½ ½½0 ½10 *** 00½ ½½½ ½½1 ½½½ >>>>>12.5/27 169.75 >>>>>7 Junior 8 2681 -1 ½00 000 000 ½½1 ½10 11½ *** 0½1 ½½½ 111 >>>>>12.5/27 153.00 >>>>>8 Hiarcs 9 2658 -1 01½ ½½1 ½00 ½00 ½01 ½½½ 1½0 *** 001 ½½½ >>>>>11.5/27 >>>>>9 Deep Junior 8 2647 -2 010 00½ 010 ½00 1½½ ½½0 ½½½ 110 *** ½01 >>>>>11.0/27 >>>>>10 The King 3.23 2635 -2 001 001 010 ½10 ½01 ½½½ 000 ½½½ ½10 *** >>>>>10.5/27 >>>>> >>>>>Average elo: 2703 <=> Category: 19 >>>>>gm = 9.72 m = 4.32 >>>> >>>>Second tournament >>>>Shredder 704 default >>>>Ratings were assigned using Fritz 8 at 2753 per SSDF. >>>> >>>>Note Elo top to bottom difference 136 1st tournament >>>>Note Elo top to bottom difference 120 2nd tournament >>>> >>>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg,ShredDef, 5min- 2004 >>>> >>>>Top Ten SSDF, Fritz7ctg,ShredDef, 5min- 2004 >>>> >>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 >>>>1 Shredder 7.04 2764 +2 *** ½½1 ½½1 11½ 0½½ 10½ ½½½ ½01 11½ 0½1 >>>>16.0/27 >>>>2 Fritz 8 2753 +1 ½½0 *** 10½ 111 ½11 0½0 010 ½11 1½½ 01½ >>>>15.5/27 205.00 >>>>3 Hiarcs 9 2753 +1 ½½0 01½ *** ½10 ½½½ 111 ½½0 0½1 110 ½11 >>>>15.5/27 201.25 >>>>4 Chess Tiger 15.0 2742 0 00½ 000 ½01 *** ½1½ ½½½ 1½1 01½ 111 11½ >>>>15.0/27 >>>>5 Deep Fritz 8 2730 +1 1½½ ½00 ½½½ ½0½ *** ½½1 10½ 11½ 0½1 101 >>>>14.5/27 >>>>6 Junior 8 2708 0 01½ 1½1 000 ½½½ ½½0 *** ½1½ 111 10½ 0½0 >>>>13.5/27 >>>>7 Deep Junior 8 2686 -1 ½½½ 101 ½½1 0½0 01½ ½0½ *** 01½ 00½ 101 >>>>12.5/27 >>>>8 Deep Fritz 7 2652 -2 ½10 ½00 1½0 10½ 00½ 000 10½ *** ½0½ 111 >>>>11.0/27 146.00 >>>>9 Ruffian 2.0.0 2652 -2 00½ 0½½ 001 000 1½0 01½ 11½ ½1½ *** ½0½ >>>>11.0/27 144.75 >>>>10 The King 3.23 2640 -2 1½0 10½ ½00 00½ 010 1½1 010 000 ½1½ *** >>>>10.5/27 >>>> >>>>Average elo: 2708 <=> Category: 19 >>>>gm = 9.72 m = 4.32 >>>> >>>>Looks like Shredder 7.04 Default is stronger per this group of games. >>> >>> >>> >>>No, you cannot conclude that. You do not have enough games for any statistical >>>evidence. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>Statistically speaking he can make any conclusion he wishes..its just that his >>degree of confidence will be lower. :-) >> >>Ed > >I usually refrain from pointing such things. The level of understanding >mathematical topics is not high here and pointing such things out does not seem >to remedy the situation. > >For a very similar example to yours, see: > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?343165 > >I usually prefer to just sit back and chuckle. :-) Dear ...ahem chuckler.....pleaaase. I never made statistical signifance of these findings....I claimed simply some conclusions based on "these games"...a tad more than 5 ...so math is obviously not your strength either. This is my opinion based on this small sampling. Sounds like laughing one, you may need a remedial reading lesson as well as a math lesson, although I am sure this will not remedy the situation..I prefer to sit back and laugh. :-)
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