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Subject: Re: Fritz analysis at 21/21

Author: blass uri

Date: 09:17:27 11/30/98

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On November 30, 1998 at 11:18:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 30, 1998 at 10:36:19, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On November 30, 1998 at 09:27:54, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On November 29, 1998 at 21:39:56, Geo Disher wrote:
>>>
>>>>11/25/98 5:40am 19/19 Qb6 eval=1.06
>>>>11/25/98 9:30pm 19/49 Qb6 eval=1.00
>>>>11/29/98 6:57pm 21/21 Qb6 eval=.88
>>>>
>>>>Best line is 36)Qb6 Qe7 37)axb5 Rab8 38)Qxa6 e4 39)Bxe4 Re8 40)Kf1 Qxe4
>>>>
>>>>It is interesting that the longer Fritz thinks the lower the eval for this pos.
>>>
>>>This is pretty interesting.  Fritz is sort of noted for its pawn-grubbing, isn't
>>>it?
>>
>>No, Fritz is not materialistic
>>It did an impressive right sacrifice of a rook for a knight against Genius5 in
>>mclane's summer tournament because of this reason.
>>It does sometimes also speculative wrong sacrifices because of this reason.
>>
>>Uri
>>
>>>
>>>Dave Gomboc
>
>
>All I would add is that you have to look *very carefully* at these "positional
>sacrifices".  IE I watched a game on ICC where Crafty was playing Rebel 10, and
>was ahead an exchange in an ending.  Out of the clear it played rxn giving the
>exchange back to wreck rebel's pawns.  But in fact, it had seen deep enough that
>this wasn't "positional" at all, it was tactical, because the king invaded and
>it did this sac knowing that it wasn't giving up the exchange, rather it was
>winning the game.
>
>I've seen lots of what appeared to be positional sacrifices to the human eye
>that are really tactical shots instead...  Before I try to classify something
>positional, I try to take the program and make sure it didn't see something
>tactical...

I am sure that in the case of the game against Genius5 in mclane's tournament it
did not see something tactical

Uri



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