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Subject: Re: AdamChess & CCT6

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 14:57:21 01/21/04

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Hi Bob,

> I think we need to study the complete question here very carefully.  IE
> one program, one entry.  Enforcing that is _not_ a simple task.  I will
> happily provide my source, so that a third-party can look at it to see that
> it is unique and not a copy of another program, and then he can use that
> source to build an executable and compare that executable with the output
> displayed by Crafty during a game at some "interesting" point.  If we don't
> set this up correctly to start with, you _know_ what is going to happen.  We
> will get commercial programs playing instead of amateur programs, etc...

You are totally right - we should find a process how to solve such things.

> There are already more than a few suspicious programs running on ICC.  I
> won't name names, but I have played a couple of amateurs that I can't beat
> even with a hardware advantage.  I find that pretty unlikely in real life...

well, I think that there might be some amateurs that are a bit stronger nowadays
then crafty, like Ruffian (as long it was amateur) or maybe Aristarch... but
usually you should get anyway some wins from time to time, at least with your
hardware advantage.

I know almost all programs on the participants list right now and have seen them
playing games. The only exception so far was Adam Chess - but that seems to be
solved, but not in a way I had hoped...

I have another point -> how to make sure that each participants use some kind of
own book ? I have especially those in mind that do not play with WinBoard which
has no bookfunction as we all know...

> If we aren't careful, human nature will wreck this event just like it tries
> to wreck everything else.

That has to be prevented, of course... But as it was pointed out several times
it somewhat easier to cheat at an online tournament. The idea to give to .exe to
a certain person is maybe the correct way - but I wonder if commercial entrants
have problems with that ? Or those which plan to get commercial...

Greets, Thomas



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