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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 Bug

Author: Fred Wilson

Date: 21:59:53 01/21/04

On January 21, 2004 at 16:56:03, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>I don't think it will be fixed soon.
>
>[D] 8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1
>
>Don't forget to set the castle long flag!
>
>New game
>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>
>1.Kd1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.Kf1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.Kf1
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.Kf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.Kf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.Kf2 Ke8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
>1.Kf2 Ke6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ke3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/4   00:00:00
>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rc2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4/6   00:00:00
>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rc2 3.Ke3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:00
>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e4 Rb4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:00
>1.Ra4 Rb1+ 2.Kd2 Rb2+ 3.Kd3 Rb3+ 4.Kc2 Ke8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00  5kN
>1.Ra4 Rb1+ 2.Kd2 Rb2+ 3.Kd3 Rb3+ 4.Kc2 Ke8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  8kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kd5 3.Re8 Kd4 4.Kf2 Rc2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  11kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kf5 3.Re8 Rc2 4.Kf2 Kf4 5.Rg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/18   00:00:00  15kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kd5 3.Re8 Rc2 4.Kf2 Rb2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/17   00:00:00  27kN
>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ra8 Ke7 3.Ra4 Ke8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/17   00:00:00  33kN
>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ra3 Rb1 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.Re8 Rb2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/17   00:00:00  43kN
>1.Kf2 Rb4 2.Ra3 Ke6 3.Kf3 Kd5 4.Re3 Rb7 5.Re4 Rf7+ 6.Ke3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:00  110kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e3 Kd5 4.Kf3 Rb2 5.Kf4 Rg2 6.Re4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:00  119kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e3 Kd5 4.Kf3 Rb2 5.Kf4 Rg2 6.Re4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:00  119kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rf8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Re7 Rg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/19   00:00:00  153kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rg8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Re7 Rb8 6.Kd2 Rb3 7.e3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/19   00:00:00  187kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rg8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Kd3 Rb8 6.Re7 Rb3+ 7.Kd2 Ra3 8.e3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/23   00:00:01  250kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb5 3.Re4+ Kd5 4.Re8 Rb6 5.Kf3 Rf6+ 6.Ke3 Rb6 7.Re4 Rb8 8.Ra4
>Re8+ 9.Kd3 Rb8 10.e3 Rb3+ 11.Ke2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/29   00:00:01  567kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb5 3.Re4+ Kd5 4.Re8 Kd4 5.e3+ Kd3 6.Rd8+ Ke4 7.Rd4+ Ke5 8.Kf3
>Rb1 9.Ra4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/28   00:00:02  872kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.Re4+ Kf5 4.Re8 Rb4 5.Ke3 Ra4 6.Kd3 Ra3+ 7.Kd4 Ra4+ 8.Kd5
>Ra5+ 9.Kd6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16/30   00:00:03  1398kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.Re4+ Kf5 4.Re8 Rb4 5.e3 Re4 6.Rf8+ Ke6 7.Re8+ Kd5 8.Rd8+
>Ke6 9.Re8+ Kd5 10.Rd8+ Ke6 11.Re8+ Kd5
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/28   00:00:04  1747kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Ke5 3.Kf3 Rb3+ 4.e3 Rb5 5.Re4+ Kf6 6.Kf4 Rf5+ 7.Kg3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/31   00:00:06  2533kN
>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Ke5 3.Kf3 Rb3+ 4.e3 Rb5 5.Ra8 Ke6 6.Kf4 Rf5+ 7.Ke4 Re5+ 8.Kd4
>Rd5+ 9.Kc4 Re5 10.Ra6+ Ke7 11.Kd3 Rd5+ 12.Ke4 Rg5 13.Ra8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/31   00:00:06  2900kN
>1.Kf2 Rb4 2.Ra3 Ke6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/31   00:00:07  3218kN
>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Ra8 Kd6 5.Ke1 Rb4 6.e3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/33   00:00:12  5802kN
>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Re4 Rh3 6.Kg2 Kd5 7.Re8 Rh5 8.Re3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19/33   00:00:14  6916kN
>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Rh8 Ke7 6.Rh4 Kd6 7.Ra4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 20/33   00:00:18  8885kN
>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Ra8 Ke7 6.Re8+ Kxe8 7.e4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 21/38   00:00:25  12050kN
>1.Ra6 Rb5 2.Kf2 Rb3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 21/38   00:00:30  14455kN
>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Rb4
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 21/38   00:00:33  16036kN
>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Ke7 3.Rg6 Rb4 4.Kf3 Rb8 5.Kf4 Kd7 6.Rg3 Rf8+ 7.Ke4 Kd6 8.Ra3 Rg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 22/37   00:00:47  24061kN
>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Ke7 3.Rg6 Rb4 4.Kf3 Rb3+ 5.Kf4 Rb2 6.e4 Kd7
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 23/40   00:00:53  27032kN
>1.Ra6 Rb5 2.Kf2 Re5 3.Kf3 Rh5 4.Kf4 Ke7 5.Rg6 Rh2 6.e4 Kd7
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 24/39   00:01:05  33921kN
>
>New game
>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7.04:
>
>1.Kf2
>  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+ Ke6
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+ Ke6
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+ Ke6
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+ Ke6
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+ Ke6
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
>
>New game
>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 9:
>
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 4/7   00:00:00
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:00, tb=17
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:00, tb=19
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00  1kN, tb=22
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 8/11   00:00:00  3kN, tb=25
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:00  7kN, tb=43
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  12kN, tb=67
>1.0-0-0+
>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 11/15   00:00:00  25kN, tb=138
>
>Michael

This whole "analysis" of yours is mute as any reasonably serious chess player
would have at least 5 piece tablebases installed on the computer anyway.

MOderation margolies,marc 23:18:05 01/21/04
- Re: MOderation Fred Wilson 07:22:48 01/22/04
  - Re: MOderation William Penn 10:33:08 01/23/04
  - Re: MOderation margolies,marc 08:37:41 01/22/04
    - Re: MOderation Fred Wilson 12:33:05 01/22/04
      - Re: MOderation margolies,marc 19:11:03 01/22/04
        
        Re: MOderation Fred Wilson 08:09:40 01/24/04
        
        Re: MOderation margolies,marc 14:44:32 01/25/04
- Re: MOderation Bob Durrett 00:47:51 01/22/04
  - Re: MOderation margolies,marc 08:41:42 01/22/04
    - Re: MOderation Bob Durrett 09:11:55 01/22/04
      - Re: MOderation margolies,marc 11:01:46 01/22/04
        
        Re: MOderation Brian Thomas 10:40:18 01/23/04
        
        Re: MOderation margolies,marc 13:02:19 01/23/04
        
        Re: MOderation Fred Wilson 08:15:22 01/24/04
        
        Re: MOderation margolies,marc 13:04:07 01/24/04
        
        Re: MOderation Brian Thomas 13:30:54 01/23/04
        
        Re: MOderation margolies,marc 14:51:12 01/23/04
  - Re: MOderation Fred Wilson 07:29:13 01/22/04
Re: Shredder 8 Bug Drexel,Michael 22:39:38 01/21/04
- Re: Shredder 8 Bug Fred Wilson 13:03:35 01/22/04
  - Admiral Jones aka <<Fred Wilson>> has attacked Mr Drexel AGAIN! margolies,marc 19:14:43 01/22/04

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