Author: Kolss
Date: 01:51:22 01/22/04
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On January 21, 2004 at 23:59:51, Mike Hood wrote: >On January 21, 2004 at 19:59:31, Rory Nolan wrote: > >>On January 21, 2004 at 17:21:52, Kolss wrote: >> >>>On January 21, 2004 at 17:02:30, Mike Hood wrote: >>> >>>>Here's a small example of "perfect play" using the KRPP-KR tablebase. It's not >>>>the only path that leads to mate, there are a few possible branches along the >>>>way, but there are no shorter paths. How many engines playing black without >>>>6-piece EGTBs could get a win against an engine playing white with 6-piece >>>>EGTBs? Not many, if any. Take a look >>>> >>>>[D] 3R4/6k1/8/6p1/7p/2r5/7K/8 b - - 0 63 >>>> >>>>63...Kg6 64. Rh8 Kf5 >>>>65. Rf8+ Kg4 66. Rd8 Rc2+ 67. Kg1 h3 68. Rd4+ Kg3 69. Rd3+ Kh4 70. Rd8 g4 71. >>>>Rd4 Kg3 72. Rd3+ Kf4 73. Rd4+ Kf3 74. Rd3+ Ke4 75. Rd8 g3 76. Re8+ Kf4 77. Rf8+ >>>>Ke5 78. Re8+ Kf6 79. Re1 Kg5 80. Rd1 Rf2 81. Rd5+ Kg4 82. Rd4+ Rf4 83. Rd2 h2+ >>>>84. Kg2 Rf2+ 85. Rxf2 gxf2 86. Kxf2 h1=Q 87. Ke3 Qd5 88. Ke2 Kf4 89. Kf1 Qa2 >>>>90. Ke1 Ke3 91. Kd1 Qb1# >>> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I do not have any 6-piece TB - is Kg6 the only winning move in this position (or >>>does e.g. Kh6 or a rook move along the rank win as well)? Maybe you could give a >>>listing of all possible moves with the respective evaluation?! >>> >>>Best regards - Munjong. >>New game >>3R4/6k1/8/6p1/7p/4r3/7K/8 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Tablebase 3.0: >> >>1. -+ (-#29): 1.Kg2 >>2. -+ (-#29): 1.Rc8 >>3. -+ (-#29): 1.Rb8 >>4. -+ (-#29): 1.Ra8 >>5. -+ (-#29): 1.Rd6 >>6. -+ (-#28): 1.Kg1 >>7. -+ (-#28): 1.Kh1 >>8. -+ (-#28): 1.Rd7+ >>9. -+ (-#28): 1.Rd5 >>10. -+ (-#28): 1.Rd4 >>11. -+ (-#28): 1.Rd2 >>12. -+ (-#28): 1.Rd1 >>13. -+ (-#9): 1.Re8 >>14. -+ (-#8): 1.Rd3 >>15. -+ (-#8): 1.Rf8 >>16. -+ (-#8): 1.Rg8+ >>17. -+ (-#8): 1.Rh8 >> >>(Nolan, 22.01.2004) > >It's black's move :) > >But it isn't just a matter of finding the first move. Can an engine playing >black without 6-piece EGTBs fid ALL the correct moves? Or will it make a mistake >and fall into a drawn position? Yes, I realize that, so essentially my question is whether moves such as g4, h3, Kf7, or Kh7 draw (that would be my guess as a quite mediocre chess player). Best regards - Munjong.
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