Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 03:13:24 01/22/04
Shredder again with problems (test position) obvious hooks it sometimes with Shredder 7,04 and Shredder 8 strangely. In the following position Shredder 8 is to have played its king before after h6 (allegedly only as ChessBase native engines). I implemented then the move, leave the position stored and her then under Shredder Classic (thus Shredder directly) to test from S7.04 and Ruffian 2.0.0. German: Shredder wieder mit Problemen (Teststellung) Offenbar hakt es manchmal bei Shredder 7.04 und Shredder 8 seltsam. In folgender Stellung soll Shredder 8 zuvor seinen König nach h6 gespielt haben (angeblich nur als ChessBase Native Engine). Ich habe dann den Zug ausgeführt, die Stellung abgespeichert und sie dann unter Shredder Classic (also Shredder direkt) testen lassen von S7.04 und Ruffian 2.0.0. Shredder 7.04 with a Problem Qh8+! [D]4Q3/p7/5p1k/1Pp3p1/P1P3p1/7q/4KP2/8 w - - 0 1 Das Ergebnis: Engine: Ruffian 2.0.0 von Perola Valfridsson 1.00 0:00 -3.32 1.f3 gxf3+ (4) 1.00 0:00 -0.62 1.a5 (8) 1.00 0:00 +0.50 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 (56) 2.00 0:00 +0.50 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 (140) 3.00 0:00 +0.49 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 (1.640) 164.0 4.00 0:00 +0.50 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Db7 (3.208) 320.8 5.00 0:00 +0.56 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.Kd3 g3 (7.671) 191.7 6.00 0:00 +0.53 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Db7 4.Kd3 f5 (22.413) 280.1 7.00 0:00 +0.68 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.De3 Dc7 5.De4+ Kh5 6.Ke3 (68.382) 325.6 8.00 0:00 +0.64 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.De3 Dc7 5.De4+ Kh5 6.De8+ Kh6 7.Kd3 (170.813) 334.9 9.00 0:01 +0.73 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.De3 Dc7 5.c5 Da5+ 6.Kd3 Dxa4 7.De4+ Dxe4+ 8.Kxe4 Kf7 (397.185) 351.4 10.01 0:03 +0.81 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 g3 4.fxg3 Dg2+ 5.Kc1 Dxg3 6.Dxa7 Dc3+ 7.Kd1 Dxc4 8.b6 (1.185.170) 355.9 11.01 0:06 +0.46-- 1.Df8+ (2.391.162) 360.6 11.01 0:10 +0.12 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Dc3 3.Dd5 Dc2+ 4.Ke3 Dxa4 5.De4+ f5 6.De6+ Kg7 7.Dxf5 Dxc4 8.Dxg5+ Kf7 (3.834.317) 363.4 12.01 0:23 +0.21 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Db3 4.Dd4 Dxa4 5.Dxg4 Da2+ 6.Ke3 Db3+ 7.Ke2 Db2+ 8.Kf1 Dc1+ 9.Kg2 f5 10.De2 (8.528.188) 367.4 12.04 0:25 +0.47++ 1.Dh8+ (9.356.766) 368.3 12.01 0:25 +1.05 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf3 g4+ 4.Kg3 f5 5.a5 f4+ 6.Kh2 Kg5 7.b6 g3+ 8.fxg3 fxg3+ 9.Kxg3 h2 10.Kxh2 (9.540.065) 368.9 13.01 0:26 +1.40++ 1.Dh8+ (9.844.731) 369.6 13.01 0:27 +2.50 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf1 Kf5 4.a5 Ke5 5.b6 axb6 6.a6 Kd4 7.a7 Kxc4 8.a8D (10.005.009) 370.0 14.01 0:28 +2.25 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf1 Kf5 4.a5 Ke5 5.b6 axb6 6.a6 Kd4 7.a7 Kxc4 8.a8D b5 (10.750.360) 373.2 15.01 0:32 +2.38 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf3 g4+ 4.Kg3 f5 5.a5 f4+ 6.Kh2 Kg5 7.b6 axb6 8.axb6 Kh4 9.b7 g3+ 10.fxg3+ fxg3+ 11.Kg1 h2+ 12.Kg2 h1T 13.b8D (12.282.421) 377.5 16.01 0:37 +2.60 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf3 g4+ 4.Kg3 Kf5 5.a5 Ke5 6.b6 axb6 7.a6 Kd4 8.a7 Kxc4 9.a8D f5 10.Kh2 (14.268.275) 382.1 17.01 0:47 +2.95++ 1.Dh8+ (18.423.292) 386.5 17.01 0:51 +4.04 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf1 Kf5 4.a5 Ke5 5.b6 axb6 6.a6 Kd4 7.a7 Kxc4 8.a8D Kb5 9.Df3 g4 10.Dxg4 h2 11.Kg2 (20.201.596) 389.2 18.01 1:08 +4.14 1.Dh8+ Kg6 2.Dxh3 gxh3 3.Kf1 Kf5 4.a5 Ke5 5.b6 axb6 6.a6 Kd4 7.a7 Kxc4 8.a8D Kb5 9.De8+ Ka5 10.Dh5 g4 11.Dxg4 (26.515.395) 389.4 und nun Shredder 7.04: Engine: Shredder 7.04 von Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 1.00 0:00 +0.17++ 1.Df7 (1) 0.0 1.00 0:00 +0.17 1.Df7 (2) 0.0 1.00 0:00 +0.51++ 1.Df8+ Kh7 (9) 0.3 1.00 0:00 +0.67 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 (17) 0.5 2.00 0:00 +0.67 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 (76) 2.6 2.00 0:00 +0.91++ 1.Da8 Df3+ 2.Dxf3 gxf3+ 3.Kxf3 (250) 8.6 2.00 0:00 +0.91 1.Da8 Df3+ 2.Dxf3 gxf3+ 3.Kxf3 (264) 9.1 3.00 0:00 +0.91 1.Da8 Df3+ 2.Dxf3 gxf3+ 3.Kxf3 (393) 12.6 4.00 0:00 +0.77 1.Da8 Df3+ 2.Dxf3 gxf3+ 3.Kxf3 Kg6 (1.574) 43.7 4.00 0:00 +0.80++ 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Dh7 3.Kd2 (2.062) 50.2 4.00 0:00 +1.00 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.Kc3 (2.611) 63.6 5.00 0:00 +0.98 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.De3 Dc7 (5.970) 71.0 6.00 0:00 +1.04 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Db7 4.Dd6 Dc8 (13.401) 100.0 7.00 0:00 +1.28 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 Df4+ 4.De3 Dc7 5.De4+ Kh5 6.De6 (32.774) 128.0 8.01 0:00 +1.31 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 g3 4.fxg3 Dg2+ 5.Kc1 Dh1+ 6.Kb2 Dg2+ 7.Ka1 Dh1+ 8.Ka2 Dg2+ 9.Kb1 (80.997) 147.0 9.01 0:01 +1.31 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 g3 4.fxg3 Dg2+ 5.Kc1 Dh1+ 6.Kb2 Dg2+ 7.Ka1 Dh1+ 8.Ka2 Dg2+ 9.Kb1 Dh1+ 10.Ka2 Dg2+ 11.Kb1 Dh1+ 12.Ka2 Dg2+ (203.184) 154.9 10.01 0:02 +1.06-- 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 g3 4.fxg3 Dg2+ 5.Kc1 Dh1+ 6.Dg1 Dxg1+ 7.Kb2 Dxg3 (376.641) 165.0 10.01 0:03 +0.56-- 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dxc5 Df3+ 3.Kd2 g3 4.Dxa7 gxf2 5.De3 f1D 6.De8+ Kh6 7.Dh5+ Dxh5 (506.010) 168.3 10.01 0:09 +0.02 1.Df8+ Kg6 2.Dg8+ Kh6 3.Da8 Kg6 4.Dd5 Dc3 5.De4+ Kh6 6.Dh1+ Kg6 7.De4+ Kh6 8.Dh1+ Kg6 9.De4+ Kh6 (1.510.537) 166.1 10.07 0:12 +0.03++ 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.a5 Kf5 (2.062.924) 166.8 10.07 0:13 +0.04 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.De4+ Kg7 3.Da8 Kg6 4.a5 f5 5.Dc6+ Kh5 6.Dxc5 Df3+ 7.Kd2 Df4+ 8.Kc2 De4+ 9.Kb2 De2+ 10.Ka3 Df3+ 11.Ka2 (2.277.789) 167.8 11.01 0:17 +0.04 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.De4+ Kg7 3.Da8 Kg6 4.a5 f5 5.Dc6+ Kh5 6.Dxc5 Df3+ 7.Kd2 Df4+ 8.Kc2 De4+ 9.Kb2 (2.898.560) 167.7 12.01 0:33 +0.29++ 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.De4+ Kg7 3.De3 Kg6 4.a5 f5 5.b6 f4 6.Dxc5 Dc3 7.bxa7 Dd3+ 8.Kxd3 (5.635.426) 168.8 12.01 0:35 +0.29 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.De4+ Kg7 3.De3 Df3+ 4.Kd2 Df4 5.Dxf4 gxf4 6.Ke2 f5 7.Kf1 g3 8.Kg1 gxf2+ 9.Kh2 f1D (5.982.745) 169.0 13.01 1:11 +0.10 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.Dd5 Dh2 3.a5 Dc7 4.De4+ Kh6 5.a6 g3 6.De6 Kg6 7.b6 axb6 (12.176.850) 169.9 14.01 2:28 +0.35++ 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.Dd5 Dh2 3.De4+ Kh6 4.Dxg4 De5+ 5.Kf1 Da1+ 6.Kg2 Kg6 7.De6 Kh5 (25.153.445) 168.8 14.01 3:12 +0.43 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.Dd5 Dh2 3.De4+ Kh6 4.Dxg4 De5+ 5.Kf1 Da1+ 6.Kg2 Dxa4 7.De6 Da1 8.De7 Kg6 (32.698.409) 170.2 15.01 5:12 +0.30 1.Dc6 Kg6 2.Dd5 Dh2 3.a5 Dc7 4.De4+ Kh6 5.b6 axb6 6.a6 g3 7.De6 (52.753.001) 169.0 Fazit: Ruffian findet schnell Qh8+! (mit Gewinn), während Shredder 7.04 den Zug bei mir nicht sieht. Eduard
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