Author: CLiebert
Date: 13:30:06 12/01/98
THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998 The new Fritz5 GUI will be released these days. One of the most interesting new functions is the support of winboard-engines. That means, that every winboard engine should work with fritz. On principle – lets have a look how it works in practice. The testet version is still the latest beta - like our first tests results. Used Winboard-beta engine: 11-30-98 , 19968 KB A discription how to use the winboard-engine you will find at www.chessbase.com. A lot of winboard programms and informations you will find at www.cent.co.yu/chess We checked the following functions 1. Human-Engine-Play 2. Analyse-Mode 3. Engine-Engine-Play 4. Tournament-Play 5. Testsuite solving 6. Infodisplay The winboard-engines we have tried so far are : The Crazy Bishop 0042, GNUCHESS, Wcrafty 16.01, Tristram 4.1.2, SSECHESS 2.0, Little Goliath, IamChop 6.90, Phalanx, Fortress, Olithink, Arasan, Gromet, Cilian, Zchess, NewRival THE CRAZY BISHOP 0039/0041 Everything works fine, no number of nodes TCB reduces the power of other loaded engines and should therefore not used for playing eng-eng matches. CB: may be pondering is not deactivated. To the missing nodes: The Crazy Bishop shows instead of the nodes the search deep. For german readers: Kommentar von CB zu Crazy Bishops Verhalten: Es gibt zwei Möglichkeiten, die mir sofort einfallen. Entweder liegt es daran, daß in TCB pondering nicht deaktiviert ist. Oder der hat eine aktive Warteschleife für Tastatureingaben. Das würde natürlich dem ganzen Konzept von Windows zuwiderlaufen. Da TCB recht kompatibel zu Winboard ist und in seiner Hilfe den Befehl zum Ausschalten des Permanent Brain auflistet, ist dort wohl eine etwas häßliche Hauptschleife am Werk. Die Autoren sind hier gefordert! Winboard-Programme sind eigene (Exe) Prozesse auf deren Implementation und Wohlverhalten wir bis jetzt keinen Einfluß hatten. Die Sache wird sich mit der Zeit einschleifen. With the latest beta of the chessbase-winboard-engine and Crazy B. 0042 the lack of power of a second engine is much lower than before. Fritz calculates much more nodes/s than before. But it seems that there is still a lack of 20-40 percent. 4 games against Nimzo99 won tcb with 4-1-0 and Nimzo calculates never more than 200 n/s (without tcb 250.00 –300.000 / K6-300). GNUCHESS Everything works fine, no display of the just calculated move (variants) SEECHESS 2.0 Everything works fine, no display of the just calculated move (variants) WCRAFTY16.01 Everything works fine, no display of the just calculated move (variants) produces many log and game files in his subdirectory btw: in blitzgames 16.01 performs better than 15.18. A first look shows no speed-differences between the Crafty16_1-Engines for winboard and Chessbase (eng-format like fritz, nimzo,...). TRISTRAM 4.1.2. Everything works now fine with the latest winboard-engine no display of the just calculated move (variants) First 5m-blitz-result: 0,5:5,5 against SSEChess (K6-300) Seems to be nice competitor for humans and blitzgames... ARASAN After editing the ini-file (see readme.txt) it works, but he always moves in a second. CB: It seems that Arasan offers no time control??! No analysis, no eng-eng, Testsuites yes but without displaying moves, GROMET NO! CB: this programm doesn´t meet the requirements IAMCHOP6.9, LITTLE GOLIATH, PHALANX Nothing happens, these programms are causing crashes / newstarts CILIAN Nothing happens, displays always „Illegal move“ FORTRESS 14b Nothing happens, newstart necessary (may be it needs some special parameters?!) OLITHINK It works, but he always moves in a second and crashes sometimes Testsuite: no display, No analysis ZCHESS It works, but always moves in a second No additional infos (writes always –0.01/9 in notation) NEW RIVAL Does not start (may be it needs some special parameters?!) GENERAL REMARKS The number of engines with the beta seems to be limited. I installed whatever I have (see above + the professionals), but with perhaps 12 or 15 engines I got problems (loading not possible). After moving engines in different directories everything works. CB: possible (may be corrected in the final version) The playing of fritz32 with Crazy B., Wcrafty, Tristram, Seechess or Gnuchess shows that it works on principle and that they really did a good job. If you don´t like loosing against Fritz, Junior, Nimzo and Hiarcs anymore, Fritz32 works fine with the following amateur-engines (minimum!) 1. The Crazy Bishop 0039/0041/0042 2. GNUCHESS 3. Crafty 16.01 4. SSECHESS 2.0 5. Comet A96/97 (CB-Engines) 6. Exchess 2.46/2.51 7. Tristram 4.1.2 Programmers who would like to discuss details and problems should email to chessbase (see website). If you have new tips, ideas and tricks how to get some engines run please feel free to send me an email. For german readers: A full report with the latest experiences we will publish in www.computerschach.de (starting 1.1.99) and in COMPUTER&SCHACH UND SPIELE WITH KIND REGARDS CHRISTIAN LIEBERT 104047,66@COMPUSERVE.COM Finally some test results: (statistically not relevant!) Tournament, 3m/Blitz K6-300 1 Crafty 16.1 6.0/8 2 Fritz 4.01 5.5/8 3 Crafty 15.18 4.5/8 4 Comet A97 3.0/7 5 EXchess 2.51 0.0/7 Tournament, 3m/Blitz K6-300 1 gnuchess 5.5/9 22.25 2 Comet A97 5.5/9 20.25 3 EXchess 2.51 5.5/9 18.25 4 ssechess 1.5/9 5m/Blitz K6-300 SSEchess – TRISTRAM 5,5-0,5 ****************************************************** Tournament, 7m/Blitz K6-300 1. FEL 1998 (1. Fritz-Engine-League) 7 Rounds, / Engines, 7 Minuten Blitz, 147 games (general book) 1 Fritz 5.32 29.5/42 2 Fritz 5.00 29.0/42 3 Junior 5.0 27.0/42 4 Hiarcs 6.0/16Bit 17.5/42 5 Junior 4.6/16Bit 17.0/42 6 Nimzo '99 14.5/42 7 Crafty 16.1 12.5/42 Tournament, 7m/Blitz K6-300 2. FEL 1998 (2. Fritz-Engine-League) 7 Rounds, / 5 Engines, 7 Minuten Blitz (general book) 1 Fritz 4.01 18.0/28 2 Nimzo '99 17.0/28 3 Crafty 16.1 16.5/28 4 Comet A97 11.0/28 5 Crafty 15.18 7.5/28 when the problems with Crazy B. are solved it will enter this group
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