Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 09:21:35 01/22/04
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On January 21, 2004 at 21:44:40, Chessfun wrote: >On January 21, 2004 at 13:34:35, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>On January 21, 2004 at 01:37:51, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>So what's the explanation for this result: >>> >>>http://www.f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/messages/27486.htm >>> >>>This was played on P4 2,6 without pondering and 12 moves common book. >>> >>>Other tournamets like WBEC have put Ruffian clearly lower. Hmm. Is it pondering, >>>book, CPU type, level, chance, manipulation, cheating. Who can repeat this? >>> >>>Jouni >> >>In my WM-Test Suite won Ruffian 2.0.0 with 11,5 - 8,5 against S7.04. >> >>Download all games, on my Hompepage on the site "Ruffian 2.0.0" (Ruffian2.PGN - >>ZIP): >> >>http://www.beepworld.de/members37/computerschach/ >> >>Eduard > >I decided to repeat this at 10 mins game since my PC is roughly 3x as fast. >XP 2600+ Deep Fritz 8 interface. WM-Test Suite. > >Ruffian 2.0.0 Score >Eduard D D D D D D D W L L W D D D D W D W D W 11.5 >Sarah L W L D L L D L D W D W W W W L L W L W 10.0 > >As can be seen only a couple of games even repeated the same result. Again it >simply shows that any small sampling of games results must be taken with a small >dose of reality. And as far as I remember the original statements were compared >to Shredder 7.04 not from a suite test. > >IMO there is no chance this Ruffian 2 will be shown to be 80 points stronger >than the original Ruffian. Which I belive was the intent of the original post in >this thread. I don't believe the poster truly felt Frank had manipulated or >cheated the tourney results. > (---- games in PGN) Hello Sarah, Your result "Ruffian 2.0.0 vs. S7.04" is ok. I see no problems! (Another hardware, then a little other result.) 11,5-8,5 or 10-10 or 9-11 all such results against S7.04 are ok for Ruffian 2, I think. Shredder 7.04 have by SSDF 2812 Elo! S7.04 are once from the best Blitz-Engines of the World. Junior 8 is the number 2 of SSDF but R2 have beat him. The result from Christian Koch (Shredder 8 vs. Ruffian Leiden 11,5 – 8,5) is Ok too! I ask me only what is this (?), when I see that by Heinz Walz (40moves/20m) S7.04 beat Ruffian 2 with 15-5, but Shredder 8 win only with 12-8 ??? Remember You: In the Online Masters by CL, Ruffian 2.0.0 won last games against Fritz Graz on a fast Machine with PB, against Hiarcs 9 too. He draws against Gandalf 6 Beta und against Shredder 7.04 (all games 60+15). In the Play Off then, Ruffian 2.0.0 beat Crafty 19.08 with 3-1. In fallow 8 games without a losing game, against strong engines! I think this is a great result, and in my eyes Ruffian 2.0.0 is real a very nice Engine what I need no missed on my PC ! In the endgames is Ruffian 2.0.0 in my eyes now the best program of the world, I belive this real, no nonsense! (Sorry for my bad English.) Best wishes, and I thank You, Eduard
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