Author: Fred Wilson
Date: 13:07:36 01/22/04
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On January 22, 2004 at 00:17:51, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On January 21, 2004 at 19:22:31, margolies,marc wrote: > >>this is interesting news. but it is also a 5pc ending. (which would most likely >>be resolved by table access without calculation). > >No, tablebases ignore castling rights. NONSENSE!! Tablebases do not ignore anything. You merely need to have enough sense to enter the position correctly (castling rights as appropriate) KRPKR is not 100% accurate. > >Is there a way of translating this error into a practical way to trick >shredder8? > >No > >Michael > >> >>On January 21, 2004 at 16:56:03, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>I don't think it will be fixed soon. >>> >>>[D] 8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1 >>> >>>Don't forget to set the castle long flag! >>> >>>New game >>>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>> >>>1.Kd1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf2 Ke8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf2 Ke6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 2/3 00:00:00 >>>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ke3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 3/4 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rc2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rc2 3.Ke3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 5/7 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra6 Ke7 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e4 Rb4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 6/9 00:00:00 >>>1.Ra4 Rb1+ 2.Kd2 Rb2+ 3.Kd3 Rb3+ 4.Kc2 Ke8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 7/10 00:00:00 5kN >>>1.Ra4 Rb1+ 2.Kd2 Rb2+ 3.Kd3 Rb3+ 4.Kc2 Ke8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 8kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kd5 3.Re8 Kd4 4.Kf2 Rc2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 11kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kf5 3.Re8 Rc2 4.Kf2 Kf4 5.Rg8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 8/18 00:00:00 15kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Re4+ Kd5 3.Re8 Rc2 4.Kf2 Rb2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 9/17 00:00:00 27kN >>>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ra8 Ke7 3.Ra4 Ke8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 9/17 00:00:00 33kN >>>1.Kf2 Ke6 2.Ra3 Rb1 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.Re8 Rb2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 9/17 00:00:00 43kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb4 2.Ra3 Ke6 3.Kf3 Kd5 4.Re3 Rb7 5.Re4 Rf7+ 6.Ke3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 10/22 00:00:00 110kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e3 Kd5 4.Kf3 Rb2 5.Kf4 Rg2 6.Re4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 10/22 00:00:00 119kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.e3 Kd5 4.Kf3 Rb2 5.Kf4 Rg2 6.Re4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 10/22 00:00:00 119kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rf8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Re7 Rg8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 11/19 00:00:00 153kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rg8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Re7 Rb8 6.Kd2 Rb3 7.e3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 12/19 00:00:00 187kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb8 3.Ke3 Rg8 4.Re4+ Kd5 5.Kd3 Rb8 6.Re7 Rb3+ 7.Kd2 Ra3 8.e3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 13/23 00:00:01 250kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb5 3.Re4+ Kd5 4.Re8 Rb6 5.Kf3 Rf6+ 6.Ke3 Rb6 7.Re4 Rb8 8.Ra4 >>>Re8+ 9.Kd3 Rb8 10.e3 Rb3+ 11.Ke2 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 14/29 00:00:01 567kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb5 3.Re4+ Kd5 4.Re8 Kd4 5.e3+ Kd3 6.Rd8+ Ke4 7.Rd4+ Ke5 8.Kf3 >>>Rb1 9.Ra4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 15/28 00:00:02 872kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.Re4+ Kf5 4.Re8 Rb4 5.Ke3 Ra4 6.Kd3 Ra3+ 7.Kd4 Ra4+ 8.Kd5 >>>Ra5+ 9.Kd6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 16/30 00:00:03 1398kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Rb3 3.Re4+ Kf5 4.Re8 Rb4 5.e3 Re4 6.Rf8+ Ke6 7.Re8+ Kd5 8.Rd8+ >>>Ke6 9.Re8+ Kd5 10.Rd8+ Ke6 11.Re8+ Kd5 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 17/28 00:00:04 1747kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Ke5 3.Kf3 Rb3+ 4.e3 Rb5 5.Re4+ Kf6 6.Kf4 Rf5+ 7.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 18/31 00:00:06 2533kN >>>1.Ra4 Ke6 2.Kf2 Ke5 3.Kf3 Rb3+ 4.e3 Rb5 5.Ra8 Ke6 6.Kf4 Rf5+ 7.Ke4 Re5+ 8.Kd4 >>>Rd5+ 9.Kc4 Re5 10.Ra6+ Ke7 11.Kd3 Rd5+ 12.Ke4 Rg5 13.Ra8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 18/31 00:00:06 2900kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb4 2.Ra3 Ke6 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 18/31 00:00:07 3218kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Ra8 Kd6 5.Ke1 Rb4 6.e3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 18/33 00:00:12 5802kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Re4 Rh3 6.Kg2 Kd5 7.Re8 Rh5 8.Re3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 19/33 00:00:14 6916kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Rh8 Ke7 6.Rh4 Kd6 7.Ra4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 20/33 00:00:18 8885kN >>>1.Kf2 Rb3 2.Rd1+ Ke6 3.Rd8 Ke5 4.Re8+ Kd6 5.Ra8 Ke7 6.Re8+ Kxe8 7.e4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 21/38 00:00:25 12050kN >>>1.Ra6 Rb5 2.Kf2 Rb3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 21/38 00:00:30 14455kN >>>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Rb4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 21/38 00:00:33 16036kN >>>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Ke7 3.Rg6 Rb4 4.Kf3 Rb8 5.Kf4 Kd7 6.Rg3 Rf8+ 7.Ke4 Kd6 8.Ra3 Rg8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 22/37 00:00:47 24061kN >>>1.Ra6 Rb3 2.Kf2 Ke7 3.Rg6 Rb4 4.Kf3 Rb3+ 5.Kf4 Rb2 6.e4 Kd7 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 23/40 00:00:53 27032kN >>>1.Ra6 Rb5 2.Kf2 Re5 3.Kf3 Rh5 4.Kf4 Ke7 5.Rg6 Rh2 6.e4 Kd7 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 24/39 00:01:05 33921kN >>> >>>New game >>>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 7.04: >>> >>>1.Kf2 >>> ± (0.71) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ Ke6 >>> +- (#14) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ Ke6 >>> +- (#14) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ Ke6 >>> +- (#14) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ Ke6 >>> +- (#14) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ Ke6 >>> +- (#14) Depth: 4/4 00:00:00 >>> >>>New game >>>8/3k4/8/8/8/8/1r2P3/R3K3 w Q - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Hiarcs 9: >>> >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 3/5 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 4/7 00:00:00 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 5/7 00:00:00, tb=17 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 6/9 00:00:00, tb=19 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 7/10 00:00:00 1kN, tb=22 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 8/11 00:00:00 3kN, tb=25 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 9/13 00:00:00 7kN, tb=43 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 10/15 00:00:00 12kN, tb=67 >>>1.0-0-0+ >>> +- (#14) Depth: 11/15 00:00:00 25kN, tb=138 >>> >>>Michael
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