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Subject: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand?

Author: horst meyer
Date: 17:24:37 01/22/04
according to the post mortem analysis by kramnik and anand, which is absolutely
correct, this was the only move to save the game, though it's just worth a draw.
i doubt any engine can find Rxc3 in the following position:

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src="http://www.marochess.de/php/chesspieces/wr1.gif" border="0" alt=" WR "
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Rebel Dos custom does not do. Eelco de Groot 03:30:21 01/24/04
Re: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand? Jeremiah Penery 18:22:39 01/22/04
- Re: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand? horst meyer 16:51:36 01/23/04
Re: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand? horst meyer 17:26:37 01/22/04
- Re: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand? Manfred Rosenboom 22:42:42 01/22/04
- Fixed :) robert flesher 17:37:58 01/22/04
  - Re: Fixed :) Chesster Fritz 17:41:17 01/22/04
- Re: does any engine find the "do or die"-move Rxc3 from kramnik-anand? Chesster Fritz 17:35:14 01/22/04
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