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Subject: Re: fastest processor for computerchess

Author: Gordon Rattray

Date: 22:34:40 01/22/04

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On January 23, 2004 at 00:12:08, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 22, 2004 at 23:30:31, Gordon Rattray wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 2004 at 22:40:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 22, 2004 at 22:36:23, margolies,marc wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>>And dont put your data to be accessed on a slow hard drive either. A ten
>>>>thousand speed rotating SATA (150gb throughput) drive with 78 gigabytes of
>>>>storage costs only between 250 and 300 USD.
>>>
>>>You were doing good until you got to the SATA drive.  Throw it away and
>>>get a 15K U320 SCSI drive...
>>
>>I agree that SCSI is fastest.  But aren't some of the SATA drives gaining on
>>them?  A Western Digital Raptor 740 (SATA) can gain an average seek time of 4.5
>>ms.  Whereas, a Maxtor Atlas 15k (SCSI) may acheive 3.2 ms.  A huge difference?!
>>
>>And then, the cheaper SATA drives may be put in a RAID config more feasibly in
>>terms of cost.  So, overall I'm not so sure that SCSI is still so attractive.
>>I'm personally thinking of two SATA 10k drives in RAID 1 config.  Given that
>>I've got an onboard RAID controller, how much would a better SCSI solution cost
>>me (2 drives + SCSI controller)?  I'm guessing a significant bit more, and not a
>>huge performance increase to justify it.
>
>The best SCSI interface in town:
>http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20030606/
>
>Hotsy-totsy SATA server performance:
>http://storagereview.com/articles/200311/20031111WD740GD_4.html
>
>Hotsy-totsy SCSI ultra320 server performance:
>http://storagereview.com/articles/200304/20030429MAS3735_4.html
>
>Bottom line:
>SATA 207 I/Os per second --> highest available performance
>SCSI 366 I/Os per second --> highest available performance
>
>77% improvement.
>
>SCSI rules in pure performance.  SATA rules in price performance.
>So if you have to have the ultimate in speed, you need Ultra320 SCSI 15K RPM
>drives.
>But if you have to have the cheapest I/Os per second, then it is SATA.


I agree that SCSI is fastest.  But on some budgets, couldn't it be possible that
SATA in a RAID config is the best option (assuming that the equivalent SCSI RAID
setup is too expensive)?

Gordon


>
>SATA has a problem for database.  What happens to a write if you kick the plug
>out of the wall in mid-stream?  The interface standard does not describe how a
>fsync() could be performed reliably.  I would be very nervous to store billions
>of dollars of data on a large SATA array, unless it had duplicated UPS.



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