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Subject: Re: The strongest Engine

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 02:28:58 01/23/04

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On January 22, 2004 at 02:16:48, Bigler wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>According to all my tests and analysis, here are form me the strongest engines
>at long time control (i.e. over 1h per player for all game)
>
>1) Shredder 7.04
>2) Hiarcs 9
>3) Deep Fritz 8
>4) Deep Junior 8
>5) Ruffian Leiden 2003
>6) Fritz 8.0.0.8
>
>I actually don’t have Shredder 8 but I order it. Will it be the new N°1 ? Its
>not clear, it seems on this forum that there are many different results.
>
>I do not understand the results of the SSDF, Hiarcs 9 is for me clearly stronger
>than i.e. Fritz 8.
>
>I also tested Ruffian 2 but was flabbergasted to see the poor results even at
>long time control.
>Indeed, Ruffian Leiden did much better.
>
>Tiger 15 ?! Well, its coming to old to really be able to compete with these more
>recent engines.
>I would have liked to see a new version. Any news of a potential one ?
>
>I know that without showing results and games, there will be some strong
>reactions. I have been playing on the playchess server against other computers
>and also on my own computer (XP 2600+) and also analyzing with them.
>
>Please do not answer to this post by saying, which book did you use ?
>I have been using many books.
>Just look at your own  games with Shredder 7.04 and the ones with Fritz 8, you
>will see that you can not compare these 2 engines, Shredder is far ahead.
>
>Best regards to your all.

Hi,

vs. Hiarcs and Shredder Ruffian have not more as 50% but in the near of it with
longer time controls. Vs. Fritz and Junior are the results not clear, it seems
that the time control is an important point. All in all with longer time
controls Ruffian can hold the playing level from the best engines in the World
and we are very happy about it because Ruffian is WB and UCI compatible and
within interesting for all computer chess GUIs.

Best
Frank



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