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Subject: Re: Some stats...

Author: Kolss

Date: 04:08:07 01/23/04

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On January 22, 2004 at 12:53:16, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 21, 2004 at 20:00:12, Kolss wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>How many games you need depends on what you want to show, of course... :-)
>>If my calculations are correct, I get the following:
>>
>>Shredder 8 vs. Shredder 7.04:
>>
>>+90 -65 =145
>>
>>=> 162.5 - 137.5
>>
>>=> 54.17 %
>>
>>=>
>>Elo difference = +29
>>95 % confidence interval: [+1, +58]
>>
>>That means that based on this 300-game match (for this particular time control
>>on this particular computer with these particular settings etc.), your best
>>guess is that S8 is 29 Elo points better than S7.04 (highest likelihood for that
>>value); there is a 95 % chance that S8 is between 1 and 58 Elo points better;
>>and the likelihood that S8 is (at least 1 Elo point) better than S7.04 is 97.5
>>%.
>>
>>So if you "only" want to show that S8 is better, you can - statistically
>>speaking - stop now. If you want to "prove" that it is more than 20 Elo points
>>better, you need a few more games indeed...
>>
>>Best regards - Munjong.
>
>
>
>It's great to see that at least one guy is able to correctly interpret match
>results here.
>
>I hope you will post more often on this subject. Information on it is very much
>needed here.

Well, as my former English teacher used to say:

"I'm talking to the trees - but they aren't listening to me..." :-)

I guess some people just don't bother trying to consult a *basic* statistics
book before jumping on you... ;-)

Best regards - Munjong.



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