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Subject: Re: Ruffian better than Shredder 7.04??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:10:56 01/23/04

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On January 23, 2004 at 09:53:10, José Carlos wrote:

>On January 22, 2004 at 18:30:07, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 2004 at 15:29:32, José Carlos wrote:
>>
>>Hi Jose,
>>
>>you try all for this discuss to remain in power.
>>Good, you have energy but please make it with a little bit more flair for the
>>situation. It's for me clear that you search an official disucss to give me your
>>points with a lot hard words, this is normaly for chess fora and it seems you
>>like it.
>>
>>OK ...
>>
>>Different people tested Ruffian versions in the past. I have better results with
>>Ruffian 2.0.0 vs. Shredder 7.04 as with Ruffian Leiden. In this time I have only
>>one PC and need this PC for the development of Arena, the CD and much other
>>things. So I cann't play too many games. But in the last year I have played a
>>lot of Ruffian games and the results are allways the same. I saw that Ruffian is
>>~ 70 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.0.5 and this is reason enough to try to start
>>this project. Main interest from me ist the Arena development and to have the
>>work from Per-Ola is a big step for Arena and a great help by Per-Ola.
>>
>>Only this one is reason enough to try to make Ruffian more public too.
>
>  I don't care about your personal problems with your PC unless you write that
>in your advertisments. I'm only talking about professional ethics. You didn't
>tell the truth and I won't stop repeating it because people deserve to know what
>they buy.
>
>>I am not thinking with commercial interest only. My commercial interest are only
>>to get enough money to pay the very high quality production and all other things
>>around the project and I have a lot of fun to make it.
>
>  I don't care if you have fun or how much money you make. I care about the
>truth and professional ethics here.
>
>>You have a lot of fun to develop your engine and I have a lot of fun to try to
>>make a little bit organization in computer chess area.
>
>  I don't sell my engine, so it's irrelevant to the discussion. You can try to
>confuse people a million times, and a million times I'll point it out.
>
>>But you will never hear
>>from me that your engine is bad and your work is bad and so on. For me is every
>>work OK if only one other person have fun with it.
>
>  Again, I don't sell my engine. I give it for free so quality is not an issue.
>Nobody pays for it. Everybody can download and copy and delete it. All for free.
>It can be bad or it can be a piece of shit. It's equally irrelevant to the
>discussion.
>
>>This all have not to do with your words or your attemps in the latest years to
>>write a little bit negative in chess fora to the person Frank Quisinsky. I must
>>thinking on x other examples which I read from yourself.
>
>  Ok bring the examples here and point one, only one lie from me. You can't. All
>I said was true. If I write negative to Frank Quisinsky that's because Frank
>Quisinsky does negative things.
>
>>What is the reason for it.
>>Did I made a mistake in the past with your engine on my older webpage.
>
>  I don't care what you write about my engine at all. I don't sell my program.
>Can you understand the logic?
>
>>I public your versions in the past on Frank's Chess Page.
>
>  It's freeware. Do it or don't do it. You don't have to pay me.
>
>>What is my mistake in your brain exactly?
>>Give me a clearly hint and I try to make it better!
>
>  I've done it a million times, but you don't listen to critics.
>
>>And now, please come not with Ruffian things.
>>Ruffian have not to do with your messages here, it's only a personal story
>>between your person and my person and I will only know your reason for do it,
>>OK?
>
>  I'm talking about your lies in Ruffian issue. I don't have problems with
>persons here, only with attitudes. Say the truth, admit you made a mistake
>calling an unsteded program "the strongest winboard program in the world" only
>to sell more and make more money. Change your attitude, be true to people and
>learn some professional behaviour. Be honest. Then I possibly buy something you
>sell.
>  But stop trying to confuse people with Ruffian here. I don't critizice Ruffian
>nor Per-Ola. I critizice the marketing lies poured here.

I also criticize the marketing claims but I prefer to be careful not to call
them lies.

Saying something that you believe in it when it is wrong or may be wrong is not
a lie and I believe that Frank believed that Ruffian2.0.0 is the strongest
program in the world at that time.


>
>>I wish you a nice evening and hope that you have success in the CCT tournament.
>>
>>Best wishes
>>Frank Quisinsky
>
>  I wish you reconsider your position and start doing things in the right way.
>
>  José C.

I also hope the same.

Uri



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