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Subject: Re: Some stats...

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 09:59:41 01/23/04

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On January 23, 2004 at 12:16:55, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On January 23, 2004 at 12:10:08, Richard Pijl wrote:
>
>>>So from the match results you can conclude with 95% certainty that
>>>Shredder 8 is at least one rating point better.
>>
>>Just to be absolutely clear on this:
>>This is a result from matchplay between two engines. The difference calculated
>>is of course only valid for results between those two engines. In real life it
>>may not mean much. Shredder 8 may turn out to be weaker or much stronger when
>>playing other engines. That's just the limitation of the model and measurements
>>used.
>
>This is all correct, Richard, but that is NOT what I had to criticise. The point
>was that the result mentioned was NOT enough to conclude a better strength.
>Please also do read the other postings I wrote on the topic today. And I can
>assure you that I dont play around and make jokes.
>
>Rolf
>
>
>>
>>Richard.

In the "real world" of the chess program USER, there often is the question:
"Which engine shall I use today if I wish to have the very best chance of
getting correct analysis?"

If the user seeks guidance from the esoteric "world of the chess program
testers," then a choice must be made based on available information as presented
by those "testers."  This may put the unfortunate user "between a rock and a
hard place" because the testing guys may have done a poor job of presenting
their findings, even if they did not err in their [statistical] analyses.

If I were the user and the data presented to me indicated that engine #1 was
slightly better than engine #2 I would go with engine #1 even if the confidence
level was said to be extremely poor.  The issues about whether engine #1 is one
point better or 100 would be irrelevant.

Bob D.



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