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Subject: Re: EXTREME Tactical Deficiency in CRAFTY 5+ Test positions that show t

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:10:12 01/24/04

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On January 23, 2004 at 21:34:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 23, 2004 at 18:02:55, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>From many Commericial and freeware programs tested by me ;It seems that Crafty
>>is the worst in terms of finding tactitcs and Combinations .
>
>My answer has to be a question:  "do you want to solve tactical positions,
>or play real games of chess?"  The two are not necessarily the same thing...

Note that I find that many problems are positional problems.

>>Position 1 :Solution 1.Nxb5
>>[D]8/4kpbn/p1p3p1/Pp2p2p/1P2Pn2/N1P1BP2/5P1P/5BK1 w
>>crafty 19.8  WB2 6 MB:
>>D18  39:38  0.60   1. c4 Kd7 2. cxb5 cxb5 3. Nxb5 Bf8 4. Bb6 Ng5 5. Nc7 Nxf3+ 6.
>>Kh1 Bxb4 7. Bxa6 Kc6 8. Bb5+ Kb7 9. Bc4 Nd2 10. Bxf7 Nxe4 11. Nd5 Be1

Crafty find positive score for another move(+0.60)

>>Analysis by Comet B27:
>>1.Nxb5 cxb5 2.Bxb5 axb5 3.a6 Ne6 4.Bb6 Nhg5 5.a7 Nxf3+ 6.Kh1 f5 7.exf5 Nxh2
>>8.Kxh2
>>  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 14/28   00:01:10  23216kN
>>1.Nxb5 cxb5 2.Bxb5 axb5 3.a6 f6 4.Bxf4 Ng5 5.Bxg5 fxg5 6.a7 Ke8 7.a8Q+ Ke7
>>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 14/28   00:01:37  32580kN
>>1.Nxb5 cxb5 2.Bxb5 axb5 3.a6 f6 4.Bxf4 Ng5 5.Bxg5 Bh8
>>  ±  (1.14)   Depth: 14/28   00:02:13  44330kN
>>1.Nxb5 cxb5 2.Bxb5 Ng5 3.Bxa6 Nxf3+ 4.Kh1 Kd6 5.b5 f5 6.exf5 gxf5 7.b6 Kc6
>>8.Bb5+ Kb7 9.a6+ Kb8
>>  ±  (1.30)   Depth: 14/30   00:02:45  54838kN

Comet finds a bigger score but the reason is mainly positional reason.

>>Position 2: Solution 1.Nxf6
>>[D]r1b2k1r/pp2p2p/5pp1/1n1NB3/8/1P4P1/P1P4P/2KR3R w
>>crafty 19.8  WB2 6 MB:
>>D15  19:35  0.68   1. Bb2 Be6 2. Rhf1 Bxd5 3. Rxd5 a6 4. a4 Na7 5. Rd7 b5 6. Bd4
>>Nc6 7. Bc5 Kf7 8. axb5 axb5 9. Kd2

Crafty finds advantage for white for another move.

>>Analysis by Comet B27:
>>1.Nxf6 exf6 2.Rd8+ Kg7 3.Bxf6+ Kxf6 4.Rxh8 Kg7 5.Re8 Nd6 6.Re7+ Kh6 7.Rd1 Nf5
>>8.Rf7
>>  =  (0.22)   Depth: 12/33   00:01:34  30250kN

Comet find smaller advantage for the move to find.

 >>Position 5 : Solution 1.Nxg6
>>[D]r1b2r2/pp1nqn1k/2pp2pb/4Pp1p/2PP1p1N/2N3BP/PPQ1B1P1/3RR1K1 w
>>crafty 19.8  WB2 6 MB:
>>D14  40:38  0.58   1. exd6 Qxd6 2. Bf2 Re8 3. Bxh5 Rxe1+ 4. Rxe1 gxh5 5. Qxf5+
>>Kg7 6. Re6 Qf8 7. Qxh5 Kh7 8. Ng6 Qg7 9. Qf5 Kg8 10. Nxf4
>>
>>
>>Ruffian 1.0.1  UCI 13 MB:
>>D14  08:41  0.11   Nh4xg6 Kh7xg6 Qc2xf5 Kg6g7 Be2d3 Rf8h8 Qf5g6 Kg7f8 e5e6 f4xg3
>>e6xf7 Bh6e3 Kg1h1 Qe7g5 Qg6xd6 Kf8xf7 Nc3e4 Qg5h6 Qd6xg3 Be3xd4

Again positional problem

Ruffian has smaller score than Crafty.
Only in 2 positions I see superior tactics of programs relative to Crafty.

I am not sure if all the solutions are correct so I am not sure if Crafty has
inferior evaluation(it seems to be the case in the first position because white
get increasing advantage but I have doubts about positions 2 and 5).

Uri



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