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Subject: Re: Test Position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:55:33 01/24/04

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On January 24, 2004 at 11:42:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 24, 2004 at 10:41:51, Evgeny Shu wrote:
>
>>add [D] before the FEN representation of the position :
>>[D] 1nrrb2k/pp3ppp/nq2p3/3pP2P/3P1NP1/1BP5/PP2QP2/K5RR w - -
>
>As I reported in the winboard forum movei(p850,16 mbytes hash) fails high at
>depth 16 on g5 and it may get a positive score after solving the fail high but I
>decided to stop the search so you are not going to know if movei can find a
>positive score.
>
>It is clear that I need to do it better in tactics in order to find the fail
>high faster.
>
>depth=16 -0.50 e2f3 b8d7 h5h6 g7g6 f4h5 f7f5 g4f5 g6f5 g1g7 e8g6 h5f4 d7f8 f4d5
>e6d5 b3d5 f8e6 g7b7
>Nodes: 522753619 NPS: 158874
>Time: 00:54:50.36
>
>depth=16 -0.49 g4g5
>Nodes: 1105457953 NPS: 158643
>Time: 01:56:08.18
>
>depth=16 -0.20 g4g5
>Nodes: 1885168420 NPS: 158753
>Time: 03:17:54.78
>
>Uri

For comparison Fritz can see a positive score in a few minutes

New game
1nrrb2k/pp3ppp/nq2p3/3pP2P/3P1NP1/1BP5/PP2QP2/K5RR w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

1.h6 g6 2.Qf3 Kg8 3.g5 Nc7
  µ  (-1.09)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  29kN
1.g5!
  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  52kN
1.g5!
  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  69kN
1.g5 Nc7 2.g6 h6 3.Qg4 fxg6 4.hxg6 Kg8 5.Qh5
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:00  208kN
1.g5 Nc7 2.g6 fxg6 3.Qg4 Kg8
  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:01  464kN
1.g5 Nc7 2.Qf3 Kg8 3.Bc2 Bb5 4.g6 fxg6 5.hxg6 h6 6.Qh5
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:03  1129kN
1.g5 Nc7 2.Qf3 Kg8 3.Bc2 Bb5 4.g6 fxg6 5.Qg3 Bc4 6.hxg6
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:06  2585kN
1.g5!
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:23  9462kN
1.g5!
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 13/36   00:01:24  34882kN
1.g5!
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 14/37   00:04:02  101202kN


As you see from the last lines fritz8 finds it only by intuition when it does
not calculate lines after g5:_(

seriously it is one of the things that I dislike about Fritz.

Uri



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