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Subject: Shredder 8 turning +3 into loss (again)

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 16:26:34 01/24/04


Shredder 8 again turnrs +3 (move #35) into a lost position, which Junior 8
despite being very deep in the tbs does not find the mate in opposite to
Shredder 8.

[Event "120'/40+60'"]
[Site "Oer-Erkenschwick"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "Junior 8"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B81"]
[PlyCount "143"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:0/0:3600"]
{256MB, Shredder8.ctg, XP1800} 1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2.
Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {(Sc6) [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {
(Sc6) [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nxd4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
(e5) [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. g4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. f4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Nf5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h5 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
10. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} hxg4 {(Sxg4) [%emt 0:10:32]} 11. fxe5 {
[%eval 54,16] [%emt 0:03:56]} dxe5 {[%emt 0:16:06]} 12. Qxd8+ {
[%eval 67,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kxd8 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 13. Bg5 {
[%eval 64,17] [%emt 0:04:34]} Bxf5 {[%emt 0:02:42]} 14. Bxf6+ {
[%eval 91,19] [%emt 0:02:12]} gxf6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 15. exf5 {
[%eval 89,20] [%emt 0:05:27]} Nc6 {(Sd7) [%emt 0:05:35]} 16. O-O-O+ {
[%eval 118,19] [%emt 0:05:25]} Nd4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 17. Bxg4 {
[%eval 106,21] [%emt 0:07:53]} Rc8 {[%emt 0:01:45]} 18. Kb1 {
[%eval 120,20] [%emt 0:01:45]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:01:47]} 19. Ne4 {
[%eval 108,21] [%emt 0:03:32]} Ke7 {(Le7) [%emt 0:00:04]} 20. c3 {
[%eval 133,21] [%emt 0:04:53]} Nc6 {[%emt 0:04:43]} 21. h4 {
[%eval 134,21] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bh6 {[%emt 0:02:56]} 22. Bf3 {
[%eval 132,20] [%emt 0:04:03]} Na5 {(b5) [%emt 0:05:39]} 23. b3 {
[%eval 145,19] [%emt 0:03:59]} Rhd8 {[%emt 0:03:06]} 24. c4 {
[%eval 149,20] [%emt 0:00:26]} Rxd1+ {(Sc6) [%emt 0:04:23]} 25. Rxd1 {
[%eval 153,16] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rh8 {[%emt 0:02:58]} 26. Nc3 {
[%eval 191,21] [%emt 0:03:20]} Bg7 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 27. Nd5+ {
[%eval 179,20] [%emt 0:03:53]} Kf8 {(Kd8) [%emt 0:07:02]} 28. h5 {
[%eval 240,22] [%emt 0:05:06]} Nc6 {(Ke8) [%emt 0:00:02]} 29. Nb6 {
[%eval 245,22] [%emt 0:07:47]} Bh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 30. Rd7 {
[%eval 236,21] [%emt 0:06:59]} Rg8 {[%emt 0:00:07]} 31. Kb2 {
[%eval 191,20] [%emt 0:12:55]} Rg3 {(Tg1) [%emt 0:05:39]} 32. Bd5 {
[%eval 246,17] [%emt 0:01:23]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:01:27]} 33. Rxb7 {
[%eval 229,17] [%emt 0:02:10]} Be3 {[%emt 0:02:13]} 34. b4 {
[%eval 282,18] [%emt 0:02:16]} Bd4+ {[%emt 0:04:16]} 35. Kc2 {
[%eval 297,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rc3+ {[%emt 0:09:40]} 36. Kb1 {
[%eval 285,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rh3 {(Lxb6) [%emt 0:05:54]} 37. Nd7+ {
[%eval 275,19] [%emt 0:03:47]} Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 38. Nc5 {
[%eval 251,19] [%emt 0:04:43]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:03:40]} 39. Nxa6 {
[%eval 257,19] [%emt 0:00:37]} Rxh5 {[%emt 0:06:46]} 40. Nc7 {
[%eval 213,20] [%emt 0:03:10]} Rxf5 {[%emt 0:06:05]} 41. a4 {
[%eval 236,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf1+ {[%emt 0:05:45]} 42. Kc2 {
[%eval 217,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {[%emt 0:09:45]} 43. a5 {
[%eval 214,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} f4 {(e4) [%emt 0:03:01]} 44. Be4 {
[%eval 194,16] [%emt 0:02:32]} f3 {(f5) [%emt 0:00:02]} 45. Rb8+ {
[%eval 159,17] [%emt 0:02:08]} Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 46. Ne8+ {
[%eval 95,17] [%emt 0:03:17]} Kh6 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 47. Rb7 {
[%eval 94,17] [%emt 0:01:30]} f5 {[%emt 0:02:09]} 48. Bxf3 {
[%eval 133,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxf3 {[%emt 0:01:11]} 49. Rxe7 {
[%eval 108,18] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rc3+ {[%emt 0:00:55]} 50. Kd1 {
[%eval 87,18] [%emt 0:04:00]} Rxc4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 51. b5 {
[%eval 77,17] [%emt 0:01:27]} Ra4 {[%emt 0:01:32]} 52. a6 {
[%eval 43,17] [%emt 0:00:54]} f4 {(Kg5) [%emt 0:00:55]} 53. Ke2 {
[%eval 55,16] [%emt 0:01:27]} Ra3 {(Kg5) [%emt 0:00:02]} 54. Rf7 {
[%eval -62,16] [%emt 0:01:38]} Kg6 {[%emt 0:00:12]} 55. Rf8 {
[%eval -76,16] [%emt 0:02:01]} Bc5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 56. Rf6+ {
[%eval -205,17] [%emt 0:02:06]} Kg5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 57. Kd1 {
[%eval -202,17] [%emt 0:01:40]} f3 {[%emt 0:00:47]} 58. b6 {
[%eval -228,16] [%emt 0:00:58]} Bxb6 {(Ta1+) [%emt 0:01:33]} 59. Rxb6 {
[%eval -278,18] [%emt 0:01:26]} Ra1+ {[%emt 0:00:02]} 60. Kd2 {
[%eval -303,18] [%emt 0:01:51]} f2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 61. Rf6 {
[%eval -242,18] [%emt 0:01:00]} f1=Q {[%emt 0:00:02]} 62. Rxf1 {
[%eval -218,17] [%emt 0:00:46]} Rxf1 {[%emt 0:00:56]} 63. Kd3 {
[%eval -381,17] [%emt 0:00:39]} Re1 {(Ta1) [%emt 0:00:11]} (63... Ra1 $1) 64.
Nc7 {[%eval -298,18] [%emt 0:01:01]} Ra1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} 65. Ke4 {
[%eval -275,18] [%emt 0:00:26]} Kf6 {[%emt 0:01:12]} 66. Kd5 {
[%eval -253,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra2 {(Kf5) [%emt 0:01:24]} 67. Kc6 {
[%eval -36,15] [%emt 0:00:15]} e4 {(Ke7) [%emt 0:00:43]} 68. Kb7 {
[%eval -4,17] [%emt 0:00:47]} Rxa6 {(Tb2+) [%emt 0:00:14]} 69. Kxa6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 70. Kb6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 71. Na6 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} e2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 72. Nb4 {
[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1/2-1/2

Instead of 63...Te1? the alternative 63...Ta1 would have led to Junior's win as
Shredders analysis shows:

[D]4N3/8/P7/4p1k1/8/3K4/8/r7 w - - 0 64

Analysis by Shredder 8:
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke2 Ta2+ 68.Kf1 Kf4 69.Ke1
-+ (-4.43) Tiefe: 13/24 00:00:02 98kN, tb=5481
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke2 Ta2+ 68.Kf1 Kf4 69.Ke1 Kf3 70.Kd1 Ta1+
71.Kd2 e3+ 72.Kc2
-+ (-4.68) Tiefe: 14/24 00:00:02 109kN, tb=6355
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Kc2 Kg4 68.Kb3 e3 69.Sd5 e2 70.Sb4
-+ (-5.18) Tiefe: 14/27 00:00:03 123kN, tb=7540
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Kd2 Ta2+ 68.Kd1 Kf4 69.Sd5+ Kf3 70.Sb4 Ta1+
71.Kc2 e3 72.Kb2 Ta5 73.Sa2
-+ (-5.44) Tiefe: 14/33 00:00:05 216kN, tb=12570
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6
-+ (-5.12) Tiefe: 14/33 00:00:05 217kN, tb=12595
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sd6 Kf6 66.Se8+ Ke7 67.Sc7 Kd7 68.Kf5
-+ (-5.01) Tiefe: 14/33 00:00:05 220kN, tb=12959
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Kd2
-+ (-7.44) Tiefe: 15/15 00:00:05 221kN, tb=12970
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Kd2 Kd7 68.a7 Kxc7
-+ (-#150) Tiefe: 15/15 00:00:05 221kN, tb=12975
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6 70.Se8+ Kd7
71.Sg7 Ta5
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 15/22 00:00:05 237kN, tb=15249
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Kd2 Ta2+ 68.Kd1 Kf4
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 15/24 00:00:08 298kN, tb=21708
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Kb5 e1D 73.Sc6
-+ (-12.28) Tiefe: 15/33 00:00:12 480kN, tb=31033
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Kb4 Ta2 73.Sc6 e1D+
-+ (-12.31) Tiefe: 16/35 00:00:15 664kN, tb=38682
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Kb5 e2
71.Se8 e1D 72.Sd6+ Kf4 73.Kc4
-+ (-12.56) Tiefe: 17/31 00:00:15 686kN, tb=40193
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Kb5 e2
71.Se6 e1D 72.Sg5
-+ (-13.06) Tiefe: 17/31 00:00:15 704kN, tb=40872
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Sc6 Ke3 73.Kb5 Ta4 74.Kxa4
-+ (-13.06) Tiefe: 17/35 00:00:19 1060kN, tb=51181
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Kd5 e2
71.Se8 e1D 72.Kd6
-+ (-13.31) Tiefe: 18/34 00:00:19 1102kN, tb=53474
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Kd5 e2
71.Se6 e1D 72.Kd4
-+ (-13.81) Tiefe: 18/34 00:00:19 1130kN, tb=54748
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Sc6 e1D 73.a7 Dc3+ 74.Kb5 Kd5
-+ (-14.24) Tiefe: 18/37 00:00:29 1767kN, tb=79161
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Kb5 e1D 73.Kc4
-+ (-14.49) Tiefe: 19/35 00:00:30 1824kN, tb=81691
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Kb4 Txa6 73.Kb5 Ta8 74.Kc6 e1D 75.Sd5
-+ (-14.52) Tiefe: 19/38 00:00:41 3001kN, tb=114801
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Kb4 Txa6 73.Kc4 e1D 74.Kb3
-+ (-14.77) Tiefe: 20/32 00:00:41 3079kN, tb=117885
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.a7 e1D 73.Sc6 Dc3+ 74.Kb5 Tb3+ 75.Sb4 Dxb4+ 76.Kc6 Dc3+ 77.Kd6
Df6+ 78.Kd7
-+ (-15.27) Tiefe: 20/39 00:00:42 3309kN, tb=120320
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.Sc8 e1D 73.Sd6+ Ke3 74.Kd5 Kf4 75.a7 Txa7 76.Kc4 Da5
-+ (-15.30) Tiefe: 20/39 00:00:59 5507kN, tb=168773
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.a7 e1D 73.a8D+ Txa8 74.Kb3 Tb8+ 75.Ka3
-+ (-15.55) Tiefe: 21/43 00:01:01 5845kN, tb=175117
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sc7 e4+ 67.Ke3 Ta2 68.Kd4 Ta3 69.Kc4 e3 70.Sd5 e2
71.Se7+ Ke4 72.a7 e1D 73.Sf5 Kxf5 74.Kb5
-+ (-16.05) Tiefe: 21/43 00:01:02 6079kN, tb=180075
64.Sc7 Kf4 65.Se6+ Kf5 66.Sg7+ Kg6 67.Se8 Txa6
-+ (-#29) Tiefe: 21/43 00:02:16 28085kN, tb=558672
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Kc5
-+ (-#29) Tiefe: 21/43 00:02:29 30727kN, tb=604015
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 21/43 00:02:35 32052kN, tb=633177
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 22/38 00:02:46 34016kN, tb=664099
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 23/40 00:03:34 46856kN, tb=823628
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 24/42 00:05:00 75750kN, tb=954878
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 25/46 00:08:18 147748kN, tb=1175256
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 26/48 00:12:07 204682kN, tb=1548144
64.Ke4 Ta5 65.Sc7 Kf6 66.Kd3 Ke7 67.Ke4 Kd7 68.Sd5 Kd6 69.Sf6 Txa6
-+ (-#32) Tiefe: 27/52 00:27:58 531359kN, tb=3218107



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