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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 vs Hiarcs 9 30 games

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:00:28 01/26/04

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On January 26, 2004 at 05:29:06, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On January 25, 2004 at 19:10:55, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>
>>Hi Thorsten,
>>
>>>> Ok prove it. Open your server database and please post all games you have
>>>> including all losses and draws.
>>
>>> is this implying that YOU did NOT post all games INCLUDING all losses ??
>>> aha.
>>> i see.
>>
>>this accusation is absolutely idiotic - have you even take a LOOK at the games
>>the posted ?
>
>no.
>
>>Have you realized that the rounds counter is increased game by game
>>just by ONE ??? Do you think she has cheated this PGNs ?
>
>no.
>I do not believe that somebody is cheating.
>Why should i. but it is the standard answer you get when you post game material
>in a forum. Post 1 game and they say:
>
>only ONE game. Where are all the losses of program X.
>Post 10 games and they say: only 10 games, where are all the losses of program
>X.
>
>chessfun can generate more data (played on 3' blitz) i could ever answer with
>40/40 or 40/120 games on my machines. i cannot win this race. :-))
>
>to get 30 40/120 games takes a while-.
>
>
>>Instead this implies only that we have not seen any game posted by you yet...
>
>and ?
>when i post them those games are ONLY A FEW, or they are not ALL games.
>so what.
>
>it's unimportant.
>
>
>>Just a statement and a server rating... So give your conclusion some evidence
>>instead accusate Sarah to cheat...
>
>i do not accusate sarah to cheat. on the other hand, why is she asking for ALL
>games. why should anybody not post ALL games and instead post only a sample that
>would be in favour of ONE program.
>
>the accusation is in the sentence she posted. not in my request.

It is not an accusation because it is about games that you did not post and it
was only to make sure that you do not post only part of them.


>of course if somebody has games he posts ALL games. thats the usual way when
>presenting data.

I am not talking specifically about you but it is not always the case.
Posting part of the games without mentioning it is not a direct lie so only if
you claim that you posted all games and people still do not believe you then you
can say that they accuse you of cheating.

I think that Sarah only wanted to verify that if you post games you post all of
them.
I do not think that she meant to say that you were lying about something.

It is clear that if somebody want to post part of the games and claim that he
posted all of them he can do it so if she assume that you are going to lie and
post part of the games then there is no reason for her to ask you to post all
games.
>
>
>>I am very sure that Sarah never has and never
>>will.
>
>
>blabla.
>
>i never said that she is cheating. all i said is that her data makes IMO not
>much sense.

Your last question made the impression that you suspect that she posted only
part of the games.
If you do not suspect it then the following question is not relevant
"is this implying that YOU did NOT post all games INCLUDING all losses ??"


Uri



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