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Subject: Re: Terrible Endgame BUG! In Ruffian2.0 and Ruffian leiden

Author: Stan Arts

Date: 07:50:29 01/26/04

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On January 26, 2004 at 09:57:51, robert flesher wrote:

>Ruffian plays NF8?? when Nf6 holds to draw?
>[D] 1k6/1P5n/2K1B3/8/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 84

Hello

I don't have Ruffian 2.0 or Leiden version but the older 1.0.1 version has
no problem and plays Nf6 with a drawscore on my computer.

To confirm the draw.
Neurosis 1.7  PIII-550 with 32 MB hash.
Nf6 is indeed a draw, and the move and drawscore is very easy to find.

Legal moves: 4   Static score: -220
Ply Score Time     Nodes      Best move and expected line
------------------------------------------------------------
2   -218  0        68         Ng5 Ba2
3   -217  0        144        Ng5 Bf5 Nf3
4   -219  0        614        Ng5 Bf5 Nf3 Kb6
5   -218  5        4283       Ng5 Bf5 Nf3 Kb6 Ne5
5   -217  5        6437       Nf6 < + > Ba2 Nd7 Bb3 Ne5+
5   -217  5        8484       Nf6 Bh3 Nd5 Bg2 Ne3
6   -218  11       14236      Nf6 Bc8 Ne4 Bf5 Ng3 Bg6
7   -217  22       24880      Nf6 Bh3 Nd5 Bg2 Ne3 Bf3 Ka7
8   -218  55       56111      Nf6 Bh3 Nd5 Bg2 Ne3 Bf3 Nc4 Bg2 Na5+ Kd5 Nxb7 Ka8
9   -215  104      101813     Nf6 Bh3 Nd5 Bg2 Ne3 Bf3 Nc4 Kc5 Ne5 Ka7
10  -215  247      261644     Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bh3 Nb4+ Kb6 Nd5+ Kc6 Nb4+ Kb6 Nd5+
Kc6
11  -213  412      420087     Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Be4 Nb6 Bd3 Nd7 Ba6 Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6
Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6 Ne5+
12  -213  736      793151     Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Be4 Nb6 Bd3 Nd7 Ba6 Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6
Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6 Ne5+
13  -212  1219     1269507    Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Be4 Nb6 Bd3 Nd7 Ba6 Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6
Ne5+ Kb6 Nc4+ Kc6 Ne5+
14  -150  2631     2769226    Nf6 < + > Bf5 Nd5 Be4 Nb6 Bd3 Nd7 Ba6 Ne5+ Kb6
Nc4+ Kc6 Ne5+ Kb6
14  -5    3307     3499395    Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne7+ Kd6 Nxc8+ bxc8=Q+ Kxc8 Kc6
Kb8 Kb6 Kc8 Kc6 Kb8 Kb6 Kc8 Kc6
15  -1    4877     5165662    Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4
16  -1    6586     7116466    Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7
17  -1    8541     9256213    Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5
18  -1    11793    13001786   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8
19  -1    15538    17164115   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6
20  -1    21388    23930768   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7
21  -1    28490    31696902   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7
22  -1    38695    43390313   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8
23  -1    51718    57468116   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8 Ba8
24  -1    70975    77782368   Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8 Ba8 Ka7
25  -1    95158    102846498  Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8 Ba8 Ka7
Bc6
26  -1    127943   137712461  Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8 Ba8 Ka7
Bc6 Ka6
27  -1    170428   183917421  Nf6 Bf5 Nd5 Bc8 Ne3 Be6 Nc2 Kb6 Nd4 Bd5 Ne6 Be4
Nd8 Kc5 Nxb7+ Kd4 Ka8 Bg2 Ka7 Bxb7 Kb8 Ke4 Ka7 Kd5 Kb8 Kc6 Ka7 Kd7 Kb8 Ba8 Ka7
Bc6 Ka6 Bb7+
Total nodes:193707575 n/sec:107900  (Q-nodes:1580360 max depth:36)

After forcing Nf8 :

Legal moves: 16   Static score: 223
Ply Score Time     Nodes      Best move and expected line
------------------------------------------------------------
2   224   0        79         Bf5 Ka7
3   226   0        140        Bf5 Ka7 Kc7
4   524   0        1124       Bf5 Nd7 Bxd7 Ka7
5   527   5        2245       Bf5 Nd7 Bxd7 Ka7 Kc7
6   1069  5        4623       Bf5 < + > Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 Bd3+ Ka5
6   1371  5        4840       Bf5 < + > Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+
6   1371  5        5688       Bf5 Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+ Bxe6 Ka5
7   1371  16       13476      Bf5 Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+ Bxe6 Ka5
8   1371  38       34861      Bf5 Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+ Bxe6 Ka5
9   1375  121      114977     Bf5 Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+ Bxe6 Ka5 Qb6+ Ka4 Qb3+
Ka5 Kc6
10  1377  274      261486     Bf5 Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ne6+ Bxe6 Ka5 Bb3 Ka6
11  9985  362      343272     Bf5 <M8> < + > Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ka5 Kc6 Ka6 Qb5+
Ka7 Qa4+
11  9989  1109     1097234    Bf5 <M6> Ka7 Kc7 Ka6 b8=Q Ka5 Kc6 Ka4 Bc2+ Ka5
Qb6+
Total nodes:1554130 n/sec:98900  (Q-nodes:11190 max depth:17)

Then Ruffian 1.0.1 with 32 MB hash on my computer after setting up the
position and hitting machine-black:
13 0 126 596407  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8
14 0 200 964875  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
15 0 306 1491319  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
16 0 452 2226782  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8
17 0 662 3243188  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8
18 0 957 4636054  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8 Bf1
19 0 1338 6537803  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8 Bf1
20 0 1870 9148396  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8 Bf1

Also in analysis mode.
18 0 950 4636054  Nf6 Ba2 Ne8 Bb3 Nc7 Bd1 Ne6 Kb6 Nd8 Be2 Nxb7 Bf1 Nd8 Ka5 Ka7
Be2 Kb8 Bf1

Greetings
Stan



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