Author: blass uri
Date: 14:18:28 12/02/98
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On December 02, 1998 at 15:50:37, Komputer Korner wrote: >On November 30, 1998 at 11:38:56, Jay Rinde wrote: > >>I think that anyone who wishes to be objective in this matter would have to >>agree with you. Jay >> >> >>On November 30, 1998 at 03:23:26, odell hall wrote: >> >>>Hi CCC >>> >>> I am writing this post because I percieve that there is blatant lack of respect >>>for older chess programs on the Chess computer message boards. I believe this >>>perception is completely unjustified! In fact when the whole question is >>>carefully examined I think one would find that the strength difference between >>>old and new programs are greatly exaggerated! What I am defining as old are the >>>programs that came out in say 93 and 94 which include Rebel6 Chessmaster 4000, >>>Genius3 Mchess4. Perhaps the "real" reason why ssdf does not test these older >>>programs on Pent mmx200 machines because it would show that there has actually >>>been very little improvement in chess software, thus very little reason to >>>upgrade to the newer programs. It would also show that most of us are simply >>>victims of Sales hype! > > >Even though newer programs play much better positional chess, the reality is >that on the latest fast computers even a strict no knowledge beast like Fritz 3 >will play reasonably well because of the deep searches. I do not think that Fritz3 has no knowledge The faster the computer >the narrower the difference. Do you have evidence for this claim? I know that Fritz3 had good results in blitz and not in tournament time control It won grandmasters like anand and kasparov in blitz on pentium90. Do you think that the difference between Fritz3 and Top programs is bigger at Blitz than at tournament time control? Programmers haven't been able to match the >increases in speed strength so that over time the difference in positional >strength beomes less important in comparison to brute forcing by deep searches. There are many positions when I see that programs do not understand the position. I do not understand why you say it becomes less important. >However there is still a positive difference in positional strength. There can be a big positive difference in rating. Most of the games between computers are decided because of positional blunders and not because of tactical blunders. Uri
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