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Subject: Re: The CS301 is like having BRUTUS but much Faster

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 20:45:44 01/27/04

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On January 27, 2004 at 18:30:12, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 27, 2004 at 17:06:19, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On January 27, 2004 at 15:37:58, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 27, 2004 at 15:18:31, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/systems/0,39001153,39154800,00.htm
>>>>http://www.dvhardware.net/article.php?sid=2016
>>>>http://www.hoise.com/primeur/03/articles/monthly/AE-PR-12-03-85.html
>>>>http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/chips/0,39020354,39117150,00.htm
>>>>http://www.gridtoday.com/03/1020/102148.html
>>>>http://www.idg.com.sg/idgwww.nsf/0/52F6C8B4A87C437A48256DC000351F9D?OpenDocument
>>>
>>>"New Scientist reports that a single chip will cost around US$16,500"
>>>25 GFlops can be had cheaper.
>>>
>>>I doubt if it can do chess calculations faster than an 8-chip Brutus system.
>>
>>I don't.
>
>The chip is rated at 25 Gflops.  It will take a lot of instructions to perform a
>single chess move.  25 GFlops sounds like a lot, but this document:
>http://www.intel.com/software/products/mkl/techtopics/wp_mkl_benchmark.pdf
>shows that a single 3.4 GHz 32 bit Intel chip can get 4 Gflops performing DGEMM.
>
>So it is only 6 times faster than a standard CPU.  16500/6 = $2750 per chip for
>break even.  Price performance is a total yawner.

Crafty on a P4 3.4Ghz would get about 1.5M nps.  x6 would be 9M nps.

I *heard* Brutus was getting around 20M nps at Graz.  Divided by 8 and you've
got 2.5M nps, per FPGA.

>>>And probably still costs a lot more.
>>
>>8 FPGA cards are a lot more than $16,500.  Not including the PCs they have to go
>>into.
>
>I don't know what they cost.  But a fairly strong PC can be had for $1000, so
>that leaves $1062.50 per card.

FPGAs run from $500 to $50,000.  I believe the ones that CD was reportedly using
are around $5k a piece.

Imagine running crafty on 8 of them.  72M nps.  I'd almost pay $132,000 to see
that.  :)



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