Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 20:01:46 01/28/04
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On January 27, 2004 at 21:39:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 27, 2004 at 14:54:06, Tord Romstad wrote: > >>On January 26, 2004 at 23:39:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2004 at 22:31:52, robert flesher wrote: >>> >>>>At least now when i play ruffian i know what endgames to steer towards....if i >>>>can survive the middle game :) >>> >>> >>>If they'd play on ICC a lot, the IM/GM players there would either prove that >>>this weakness is a killer, or that it is not important. They've taught _me_ >>>many lessons over the years, when I had a hole they could exploit, exploit it >>>they did. :) >> >>I've always wondered: How do you get all these games against GMs? I have >>the impression that strong human players on ICC prefer to play against weak >>programs. Back when my engine had a ICC blitz rating in the 2200-2400 range, >>I got lots of games against human players, including many titled players. >>Now, when my engine is rated above 2700 most of the time, I hardly ever get >>any games against humans any more. How Crafty with its 3200+ rating can >>get so many games against GMs is a mystery to me. >> >>Tord > > >There are several reasons. First I have it set to resign and accept/offer draws >when reasonable. GM's like to avoid playing hopeless positions. Crafty is not >perfect, of course, and it will occasionally play on in a dead draw because it >doesn't realize it is a draw. > >I never match _them_. They can play when they want. I even give them the >"password" so that they can force it to play whatever time control they want, or >they can force it to resign or offer a draw when it is appropriate... > >The idea is to treat them with a reasonable amount of respect, and it pays >off... There are _plenty_ of comp operators that are simply jerks. Most know >who they are. :) It used to be far more common for almost anyone with acomputer account to get games on ICC (I"m going back 8 years or so). As more folks became knowledgeable about to set up the chess robot client, the quality of the operator started going down. There would be operators treating GM with total disrespect - kibitzing snide comments like "gotcha" when the score jumped or "mate-in-xx" annoucnements. I was way from from it for a few years and when I came back -- the world had changed - most top GM/IM simply do not play computer opponents except for Crafty. It a clear sign of respect for Bob Hyatt that the GM/IM's still play Crafty as often as they do.
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