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Subject: Re: What's going on here?

Author: blass uri

Date: 02:36:01 12/03/98

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On December 02, 1998 at 07:52:32, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On December 02, 1998 at 06:44:11, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I think that no program can find Nxf2
>>The tactical idea is too deep for programs.
>>
>>You can try to prove that the sacrifice is wrong by suggesting a better defence
>>for white but I remember that I analyzed it before some years with Genius3
>>and it understood that black was better only many plies after Nxf2
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Thats the whole point, if you analyse that game, then yes Nxf2 is a winning
>move. But if black played that move against another player then no, I do not
>think the game would have lead to black winning.
>
>Blacks move was correct for that game, but it was the wrong move, and it was
>only made correct by white stupid moves later on in the game.
>
>By what you are saying if understand you correctly, is that after Nxf2, no
>matter what or who played white, Black still would have won that game.
>
>If that is what you are saying then I totally disagree with you.
>You might want to try one of todays programs to analyse it and see if you get
>the same results, and if you do, then I would very much like to see it.
>
>In my view at that stage of the game Nxf2 was the wrong move, and black only won
>that game due to white's stupid moves later on in the game.

after 11...Nxf2 12. Kxf2 Bh4+ 13.g3 f4
I gave Junior5 to analyze the position for more than 6 hours
at depth 19 after almost 6 hours and after 3,043,302 Knodes
Junior5 understand that black is better

The evaluation of Junior5 is 1.26 pawns advantage for black
with the line 14.Kg2 fxg3 15.Rf1 gxh2 16.Kh1 Bh3 17.Bxh7+ Kh8 18.Qd3 Bxf1
19.Nxf1 Bg5 20.Bd2 Bxd2 21.Nbxd2 Qh4 22.Bg6 Rf2 23.Re1

I did not check this line and there can be mistakes in the last moves of this
line

14.Kg2 was always Junior5's best move
Junior5 rejected 14.Bxh7+ also at depth 19(It did not finish to analyze all the
moves at depth 19

The evaluation of Junior5 at depth 18 was 0.19 advantage for white.

Uri



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