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Subject: Re: define Clones - MY definition / Ethical Background

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 06:58:52 01/29/04

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On January 29, 2004 at 09:32:25, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>Rolf, you are not understanding the point here.
>
>Suppose the police make you a suspect in a crime, and you have a videotape that
>proves you couldn't possibly have done it.  All you have to do is show the
>police the videotape.  Easy.  It is a trivial case of effort << reward.
>
>The ICGA offered to fly one of their members to the guys house to look at his
>source on his computer!  This would have taken 1 hour of his time at most. This
>is what makes me think List is a clone.  Fritz Reul had a _trivial_ way to clear
>himself of all suspicion.  Yet he didn't take it.  The only possible
>explanations are that List is a clone, or that he just didn't care if the entire
>world thought he copied crafty, or both.
>
>anthony


Thanks so far.

But now I come pompously with my 40 years more of experience than you and tell
you this: the only interesting question for the ICGA is IF they had their rules
straight forward enough. What you are saying is a logical trap for justice. You
want to imply that every defendent would act like you said with the video. But I
tell you that justice has also to deal with people who say that they are guilty
- but they are not! Justice must be a consistent body and not a ship of 'fools'
[Fellini].

Did you ever reflect this??

The arguments of critics against ICGA are deeper than what you are assuming. You
discuss a single bit of logic in the whole case. There are many other peices of
logic. No matter what Fritz has done, the ICGA must have a fix for their rules.
They play a poor game. But only for those who have eyes to watch it [read the
posts from Hyatt in the archives]. Your solution is too obvious amd small. But
if you were the suspect perhaps you suddenly understood what the real problem
is. If they want your soul. And you want to be free. Did you also reflect if the
same guidelines for Fritz R. were also applied to Frans M. or Amir Ban. I really
want to see their faces when suddenly Jaap appears and announces that the expert
now wants to look at their source code. I am ready to make some suspicions.
Believe me. This is NOT the problem.

But I agree that the clone problem is serious. But - we can't change our
tournament practice only to prevent clones. We would lose our freedom & fun IMO.
 We shouldn't take these tournaments too seriously. 11 rounds Graz was a good
holiday for some privileged artists without a serious job at universities or
institutions. ;) [Now hell will break loose.]

Rolf



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