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Subject: Re: unlikely rows in tourneys...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:52:52 01/29/04

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On January 29, 2004 at 13:49:24, Stefan Zipproth wrote:

>>>1   Fritz 8
>>>½½0½1½0000000½1½00101½010½10½110½11011111111000110½01½11½½½1½10½100½½101110½1½½½0½101½001011½½001010
>>>51.5/100
>>>2   Shredder 8
>>>½½1½0½1111111½0½11010½101½01½001½00100000000111001½10½00½½½0½01½011½½010001½0½½½1½010½110100½½110101
>>>48.5/100
>>>
>>>Note, that there is one 8 and one 7 wins in row - stunning, when engines are so
>>>similar in strength.
>>
>>I'm not sure if I like this very much. The highest thing under that is one time
>>000 and 111 each. But statistically, I think that lower chains should be more
>>frequent. So when it goes 7 or 8 in a row, I would be very suspicious, and try
>>to check out many possible reasons.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>
>Why? I'm testing permanently, and rows are perfectly normal. From a mathematical
>point of view, the probability for a row of length n is approximately
>0.33^(n-1). (with n=1, this makes 100 %)
>
>So if you play 8 games the probability that all have the same result is about
>0.05 %. Within a series of 100 games, this probability raises to a value that is
>still unlikely, but no reason for doubts. A row of 4-5 games in a tourney of 100
>games can be expected. That's the reason why a test of 10 games says nothing,
>imagine this row was at the beginning of the tourney, which is of course
>possible...
>
>Of course the above formula bases on two approximations: the probabilities for
>win, loss and draw are each 33 %, and the two engines are of equal strength.
>
>Regards,
>Stefan


it is just like a random number generator.  If the generator does not generate a
"run" here and there, it looks good, but is really bad.  After all, when you
flip a coin, you will get several heads or tails in succession at points in the
experiment.



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