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Subject: Re: Deep Shredder Paderborn compare to Shredder 7.04

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 05:51:19 01/30/04

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On January 29, 2004 at 03:02:19, m.d.hurd wrote:

>On January 28, 2004 at 22:31:15, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>> [D] 3b4/p3P1q1/P1n2pr1/4p3/2B1n1Pk/1P1R4/P1p3KN/1N6 w - -
>>
>>I was looking over some old test positions.
>>Here is a position I ran on dual machine compared to single.
>>Mate in 15. Big difference in search time and total nodes to find mate.
>>
>>Shredder 7.04    Deep Shredder Paderborn
>>2210 mhz xp      2x1533 mhz AMD mp
>>480 kns          600 kns
>>15/39            14.01
>>2.55             5.08
>>84,384,848       186.186.108
>>
>>
>>Shredder 7.04
>>
>> 14/43	 1:45 	-6.65--	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7 8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+
>>(51.368.860) 485.2
>> 14/44	 2:39 	-7.15--	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7 8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+
>>(76.639.969) 479.7
>> 14/44	 2:39 	+0.11 	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kxa6 8.Rb8+ Ka5 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Rb5+ Ka6 11.Rb8+ Ka5 12.Rb5+
>>Ka6 13.Rb8+ Ka5 14.Rb5+ (76.717.584) 479.7
>> 15/39	 2:55 	  +M15++	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7 8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+ Kf4
>>13.Rf3+ Kg5 14.Rf5+ (84.384.848) 481.5
>>
>>
>>Deep Shredder Paderborn
>>
>>14.01	 4:57 	+0.09++	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kxa6 8.Rb4+ Ka5 9.Rb5+ Ka6 10.Rb4+ Ka5 11.Rb5+ Ka6 12.Rb4+
>>(178.985.434) 601.4
>> 14.01	 5:08 	  +M15++	1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5
>>6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7 8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+ Kf4
>>13.Rf3+ Kg5 14.Rf5+ (186.186.108) 602.9
>>best move: Rd3-h3 time: 8:32.906 min  n/s: 597.997  CPU 199.7%  nodes:
>>306.716.420
>
>
>For comparison :
>
>New game
>3b4/p3P1q1/P1n2pr1/4p3/2B1n1Pk/1P1R4/P1p3KN/1N6 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>
>1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
>8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+ Kf4 13.Rf3+ Kg5 14.Rf5+
>Kh4 15.Rh5#
>+-  (#15)    Depth: 21/39   00:00:30  11673kN
>(Hurd, UK 29.01.2004)
>
>New game
>3b4/p3P1q1/P1n2pr1/4p3/2B1n1Pk/1P1R4/P1p3KN/1N6 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8 Gambit:
>
>1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
>8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+ Kf4 13.Rf3+ Kg5 14.Rf5+
>Kh4 15.Rh5#
>+-  (#15)    Depth: 20/45   00:00:32  11825kN
>(Hurd, UK 29.01.2004)
>
>Athlon 2400XP 256mb hash.
>
>Regards
>
>Mike


Something strange here, Mike.  My machine is only slightly faster than yours,
but Shredder 7.04 does much better on this position.  Take a look (are your
settings right, because Shredder 7.04 finds the mate on ply 14/40, while yours
doesn't -- goes to ply 15/39?):

New game
3b4/p3P1q1/P1n2pr1/4p3/2B1n1Pk/1P1R4/P1p3KN/1N6 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

 1.e8Q Rxg4+ 2.Nxg4
  -+  (-11.71)   Depth: 2/12   00:00:00
1.e8Q cxb1Q 2.Qxc6 Qxa2+ 3.Kh1
  -+  (-11.67)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.e8Q cxb1Q 3.Qxc6 Qxa2+ 4.Kf3
  -+  (-11.01)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Nf3+ Kxg4 3.exd8Q
  -+  (-10.66)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.e8Q cxb1Q 3.Qxc6 Qxa2+ 4.Kf3
  -+  (-10.66)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.exd8Q
  -+  (-10.41)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.exd8Q
  -+  (-9.91)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8
  -+  (-9.43)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8
  -+  (-9.43)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8
  -+  (-7.72)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8
  -+  (-7.72)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:01
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8 6.Rf1 cxb1Q
  -+  (-7.97)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:01  21kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8 6.Rf1 cxb1Q
  -+  (-8.47)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:01  27kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Kc5 6.Nc3 Rxg4+ 7.Nxg4
  -+  (-8.47)   Depth: 6/22   00:00:01  27kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.exd8Q+ Nxd8 6.Rd3+ Kc5 7.Rh3 cxb1Q
  -+  (-8.72)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:01  70kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.exd8B+ Nxd8
8.Rb5+ Kxa6
  -+  (-7.67)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:01  71kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kc8 9.e8Q cxb1Q 10.Rxg7 Qxa2+ 11.Kf1 Qxh2
  -+  (-7.02)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:01  106kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kc8 9.e8Q cxb1Q 10.Rxg7 Qxa2+ 11.Kf1 Rxg7 12.Qxc6+ Kb8
  -+  (-6.38)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:01  106kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.e8R cxb1Q
  -+  (-6.38)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:02  195kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.e8R cxb1Q 9.Rb7+ Kd6
  -+  (-6.63)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:03  424kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Rxg7 cxb1Q 11.Rxg6 Qxa2+ 12.Kf3
  -+  (-6.39)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:03  427kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Nf3 cxb1Q
  -+  (-6.64)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:04  969kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Nf3 cxb1Q
  -+  (-7.14)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:04  1453kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Rxg7 Rxg7
  -+  (-7.49)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:05  1875kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3
  -+  (-6.10)   Depth: 11/34   00:00:06  2245kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3
  -+  (-6.10)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:06  3174kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Nf3 cxb1Q
  -+  (-6.35)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:13  6587kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Nf3 cxb1Q
  -+  (-6.85)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:17  8847kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Nf1+ Kf4
  -+  (-6.20)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:17  8851kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Nf1+ Kf4 13.Rb5 cxb1Q
  -+  (-6.45)   Depth: 13/40   00:00:33  17171kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kxa6
8.Rb8+ Ka5 9.exd8Q+ Nxd8 10.Rb5+ Ka6 11.Rb8+ Ka5 12.Rb5+ Ka6 13.Rb8+ Ka5 14.Rb5+
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 13/40   00:00:33  17185kN
1.Rh3+ Kg5 2.Rh5+ Kf4 3.Rf5+ Ke3 4.Rf3+ Kd4 5.Rd3+ Kc5 6.Rd5+ Kb6 7.Rb5+ Kc7
8.Rb7+ Kd6 9.e8N+ Kc5 10.Rb5+ Kd4 11.Rd5+ Ke3 12.Rd3+ Kf4 13.Rf3+ Kg5 14.Rf5+
  +-  (#15)   Depth: 14/40   00:00:38  19994kN

(Vidanovich, University of Nis 30.01.2004)




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