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Subject: Re: Transposition into won endgame

Author: Ed Trice

Date: 15:35:50 01/30/04

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Hi Kurt,

Just think with the King + 2 pawn vs. King + 2  pawn 6 piece tablebased probed
in RAM, this would be solved with a 4-ply search, maybe even sooner because of
check/capture extensions!

>The position below is from a 90m+30s game between
>Shredder8 and ChessTiger15 in which White easily
>won with 45.Qf6 and an won pawn ending. Interesting
>to see that many engines do not find the winning
>move within reasonalbe time, i.e. Chess Tiger 15
>whereas it's no problem for Chess Tiger 14.
>Kurt
>
>[D]8/4Q3/p5k1/1p2P3/5q2/P2K4/1P6/8 w - - 0 46
>
>
>Shredder 8 - Chess Tiger 15.0
>8/6k1/p3Q3/1p2P3/5q2/P2K4/1P6/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0:
>
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qc6+ Kg5 47.e6 Qf1+ 48.Kd2 Qf4+ 49.Kc2 Qf5+ 50.Kc3
>  +-  (1.52)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  179kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kh5 47.b3 Qg3+ 48.Kd4 Qxb3 49.Qxa6 Qc4+ 50.Ke3
>  ±  (1.40)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  297kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kg5 47.Qd8+ Kh5 48.Qd5 Kg5 49.b3 Qf1+ 50.Kd2
>  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  670kN
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qxb2 49.Qd7+ Kf8 50.Qd6+ Ke8 51.Qxa6
>  ±  (1.40)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  769kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.b3 Qg3+ 47.Kd4 Qf4+ 48.Kc5 Qe3+ 49.Kd6 Qd3+ 50.Kc7 Qxb3 51.Qf6+
>Kh5 52.Qxa6
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  989kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.b3 Qg3+ 47.Kd4 Qf4+ 48.Kc5 Qe3+ 49.Kd6 Qd3+ 50.Kc7 Qxb3 51.Qf6+
>Kh5 52.Qxa6
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  1316kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.b3 Qg3+ 47.Kd4 Qxb3 48.Qf6+ Kh5 49.Qxa6 Qc4+ 50.Ke3 Qc3+ 51.Ke4
>Qc4+ 52.Kf3 Qc3+ 53.Kf4
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  2750kN
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc4 51.Ka5
>  +-  (1.42)   Depth: 10   00:00:08  3482kN
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc4 51.Ka5
>  +-  (1.42)   Depth: 11   00:00:10  4045kN, tb=3
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc5 51.b4+
>Kc4 52.Ka5
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 12   00:00:16  6530kN, tb=21
>45.Qf6+
>  +-  (2.34)   Depth: 13   00:00:23  9597kN, tb=80
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc5 51.b4+
>Kc4 52.Ka5 Kb3 53.Kxb5 Kxa3
>  +-  (7.20)   Depth: 13   00:00:23  9607kN, tb=128
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc5 51.b4+
>Kc4 52.Ka5 Kb3 53.Kxb5 Kxa3
>  +-  (7.16)   Depth: 14   00:00:26  11049kN, tb=258
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc5 51.b4+
>Kc4 52.Ka5 Kb3 53.Kxb5 Kxa3
>  +-  (7.16)   Depth: 15   00:00:31  13388kN, tb=608
>45.Qf6+ Qxf6 46.exf6+ Kxf6 47.Kd4 Ke6 48.Kc5 Ke5 49.Kb6 Kd4 50.Kxa6 Kc5 51.b4+
>Kc4 52.Ka5 Kb3 53.Kxb5 Kxa3
>  +-  (7.16)   Depth: 16   00:00:41  18574kN, tb=1399
>
>(Utzinger, MyTown 30.01.2004)
>
>
>Shredder 8 - Chess Tiger 15.0
>8/6k1/p3Q3/1p2P3/5q2/P2K4/1P6/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Chess Tiger 15.0:
>
>45.b3
>  +-  (1.70)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>45.b3
>  +-  (1.72)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>45.b3 Kh7
>  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>45.b3 Qf1+ 46.Kc2 Qf2+ 47.Kd1
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  2kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kh5 47.b3
>  +-  (1.52)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  3kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qc6+ Kf7 47.e6+ Kf6 48.Qxa6
>  +-  (1.62)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  5kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qc6+ Kg5 47.e6 Kf6 48.Qxa6
>  +-  (1.62)   Depth: 4   00:00:00  11kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qc6+ Kg5 47.Qe4 Qh2 48.b4
>  +-  (1.54)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  28kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qc6+ Kg5 47.e6 Qg3+ 48.Kc2 Qf2+ 49.Kc3 Qe2
>  +-  (1.60)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  82kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kh5 47.Qd5 Qg3+ 48.Kc2 Qf2+ 49.Kb3 Qf5 50.Kc3
>  ±  (1.30)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  317kN
>45.Qd7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kh5 47.Qd5 Qg3+ 48.Kc2 Qf2+ 49.Kb3 Qe2 50.Qf7+ Kg5 51.Qf6+
>Kh5
>  ±  (1.30)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  889kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.b3 Qg3+ 47.Kd4 Qxb3 48.Qf6+
>  ±  (1.40)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  1253kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kg5 47.Qd8+ Kh5 48.Qd4 Qf1+
>  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 9   00:00:05  1996kN
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kg5 47.Qd8+ Kh5 48.Qd4 Qf1+ 49.Kd2 Qf5 50.Qe3 Qe6 51.b3 Kg6
>  ±  (1.36)   Depth: 10   00:00:09  3754kN
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qc6+ 49.Kf4 Qh6+ 50.Kg4 Qh2 51.Qd7+
>Kf8 52.Qd8+ Kf7 53.Qf6+ Ke8
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 10   00:00:13  5280kN
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qc6+ 49.Kf4 Qc1+ 50.Qe3 Qxb2 51.Qa7+
>Kf8 52.Qxa6 Qf2+
>  ±  (1.40)   Depth: 11   00:00:23  9571kN, tb=1
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qc6+ 49.Kf4 Qh6+ 50.Kg4 Qe6+ 51.Qf5
>Qc4+ 52.Kh5 Qc6 53.b4
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 12   00:00:32  13409kN, tb=2
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qxb2 49.Qd7+ Kf8 50.Qd6+ Ke8 51.Qe6+
>Kd8 52.Qb6+ Kd7 53.Qa7+ Kd8
>  ±  (1.30)   Depth: 13   00:01:22  35014kN, tb=18
>45.Qd6 Qc4+ 46.Ke3 Qb3+ 47.Ke4 Qc2+ 48.Qd3 Qxb2 49.Qd7+ Kh6 50.Qe6+ Kg5 51.Qf6+
>Kg4 52.Qf3+ Kg5 53.Qg3+ Kh5
>  ±  (1.22)   Depth: 14   00:08:27  223480kN, tb=629
>45.Qe7+ Kg6 46.Qd6+ Kg5 47.Qd8+ Kh5 48.Qd4 Qf3+ 49.Kd2 Qb3 50.Ke2 Qe6 51.Kd3
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 14   00:12:10  321461kN, tb=707
>
>(Utzinger, MyTown 30.01.2004)



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