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Subject: Re: Result: 20 games at 30', S8 v GT3

Author: Chessfun

Date: 16:18:27 01/30/04

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On January 30, 2004 at 18:41:25, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 30, 2004 at 14:54:56, David Dory wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2004 at 13:21:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 30, 2004 at 12:16:09, George Sobala wrote:
>>>
>>>>20 games at 30 minutes per game
>>>>Played under CB GUI, no ponder
>>>>Two comps used, P4-1800 and AMD-1700+,
>>>>ten games played on each machine.
>>>>32M hash
>>>>5moves.ctg opening book (normal, no learning)
>>>>3+4 man EGTBs
>>>>
>>>>Shredder 8 (default) v ChessTiger 15 (gambit) [aka Gambit Tiger III]
>>>>
>>>>Shredder 8 won convincingly: +10 -4 =6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>CONVINCINGLY?
>>>
>>>So it does not matter how many times we explain when a match result is
>>>significant and when it is not.
>>>
>>>This discussion has happened over and over again here. Last time was two or
>>>three days ago.
>>>
>>>And just after explaining the whole stuff once again, you come here and pretend
>>>that 13-7 is a convincing result?
>>>
>>>I'm now CONVINCED that people never learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>I think what you mean, Christophe is NOT the same thing George was talking
>>about. What George meant I believe, is that WITHIN the set of games that he
>>played, Shredder 8 won "convincingly".
>
>
>
>If that is the case, then a result of 10.5-9.5 is also extremely convincing.


Probably convincing to some, though not so sure they would be "extremely"
convinced.

Sarah.




>>
>>Naturally, that's not the same thing as saying that 20 games has MUCH if any
>>statistically convincing evidence.
>>
>>George is just saying that within 20 flips of the coin, he got heads 10 times,
>>tails 4 times, and flipped the coin off into the grass and couldn't tell the
>>result, 6 times.
>>
>>Now George knows it's time to mow the grass. :)
>>
>>Dave



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