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Subject: Re: Junior 5 - Fritz3 P90 SSDF game 11 0-1 now 9-2

Author: Detlef Pordzik

Date: 19:01:25 12/03/98

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On December 03, 1998 at 07:51:28, blass uri wrote:

>
>On December 03, 1998 at 05:49:37, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 1998 at 05:21:19, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On December 03, 1998 at 05:04:52, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 1998 at 02:31:09, Hans Christian Lykke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Junior lost on time
>>>>
>>>>>[White "Junior 5 P200MMX 47MB"]
>>>>>[Black "Fritz 3 P90 15MB"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>
>>>>I didn't think it is possible and programmes have implemented kind of panic time
>>>>or so. Stil wondering....
>>>
>>>It is possible
>>>I discovered this bug before some weeks and told Amir Ban about it.
>>>
>>>Junior always feels a duty to finish all the moves in the iteration it does and
>>>this is the reason for it.
>>>
>>>Usually it does not happen but it can happen 1 time out of many games.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This is not supposed to happen. This is an engine interface issue. The engine
>>tells the shell when it wants a wake-up call, and the shell sends it. This was
>>not working properly for J46, but was fixed for J5. Looks like we didn't test it
>>thouroughly enough.
>>
>>I suppose that what actually happened is that J5 declared itself lost ? There is
>>no other way to lose on time in auto232. It's quite possible to overstep the
>>time limit without anything happening.
>>
>>Amir
>I looked in the times and the if I compute the total time of Junior5 then I see
>that the time is only 6892 seconds so I do not understand why Junior lost in
>time in this game.
>
>The total time of Firz3 was 7243 seconds after 37 moves and 2708 seconds for the
>38 move.
>
>If there is no mistakes in the times that Junior5 printed then  Fritz3 lost on
>time
>
>Uri

I really don't dare to trust my eyes, collegue Uri !
What should such a game setup teach ?
A 48 megs 200MMX based 1998 prog comparing to a 1995 prog under a platform of 15
Megs P 90.
THIS missleads, and THIS affects - clearly, the rating - noone to wonder.
Tell me please - do you vary 200 MMX vs 200 MMX - or do you play, whatever
combination you can gat a hold on ? maybe 5 or 6 of this abnormal setup in a
row ? Then these ELO dimensions wouldn't wonder me a thing, anymore.

ELVIS



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