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Subject: Re: Please post the whole game. (CSTal2.03 vs. Shredder8 )

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 02:04:15 02/02/04

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On February 01, 2004 at 21:22:22, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>my girlfriend and i bought notebooks this christmas. i got an AMD 2400+
>and she has a celeron2400mhz.
>
>the 2400+ XP-M only runs at 1800mhz but is maybe better for chess than the
>celeron.
>
>on this machine CSTal2.03 does arround 55.000 NPS in middlegame.
>
>i am playing a 40/120 game between shredder8 and CSTal2.03 in the moment.
>
>it's unbelievable how deep shredder8 computes.
>
>on the celeron s8 is doing arround 200 K NPS.
>
>In the moment CSTal is in a better position and has sacced a bishop on h6
>- a standard move -
>looks like on of those classical:  knowledge beats search games :-))
>
>it's unbelievable that CSTal is still competitive.
>
>shredder8 is - as far as all testers say -the strongest program in the moment.
>
>we are in move 20.
>
>[Event "CSTal2.03 vs. Shredder8"]
>[Site "40/120, 2400 mhz"]
>[Date "2004.01.02"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "CSTal2.03"]
>[Black "Shredder8"]
>[Result "*"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8.
>O-O-O h6 9. Be3 Be7 10. Be2 Bd7 11. Nxc6 Bxc6 12. f3 b5 13. a3 O-O 14. Kb1 Qc7
>15. Bxh6 gxh6 16. Qxh6 Rfd8 17. Rd3 Nh7 18. f4 Bf8 19. Rg3+ Kh8 20. Qh5 *
>
>cstal did not expect 20...Rab8, it had f6 in pb.
>the score increases....
>
>+2.42.
>
>s8 says -1.11 but it is only in search 14.
>
>21.f5 came and s8 is in search 18 (search depth !)
>
>seems it makes heavy pruning or lazy evaluation or whatever to reach those
>depths.
>
>how can a program reach those depths and play that weak to maybe lose in such a
>primitive way ?
>
>21...exf5 and s8 says -0.88 went through search 18.
>
>CSTal now says +3.10.

And how the game ended? Did CSTal's evaluations come true or......



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