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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 bug ? (Zied Haddad)

Author: William Penn

Date: 05:14:17 02/03/04

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On February 03, 2004 at 08:09:52, William Penn wrote:

>On February 03, 2004 at 04:32:35, Matthias Gemuh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Zied Haddad seems to be unable to connect to CCC from Tunesia.
>>He seeks to know whether others have encountered a Shredder 8 problem he has:
>>
>>after playing many games in a row without clearing hash tables, Shredder 8
>>starts messing and missing even mate in 1, till hash tables are cleared.
>>
>>[http://f50.parsimony.net/forum200321/messages/5855.htm]
>>
>>/Matthias
>>(message posted on Zied's request)
>
>You may be right. I'm not sure yet, but I will start clearing the hash tables
>before each analysis and see if it makes a difference. Note that I only run
>Shredder 8 in infinite analysis mode for a long time to analyze positions.
>Here's an example where the analysis ran for over 6 hours. The last line it
>burped out (after 05:35:47) starts playing "giveaway chess" fairly soon. I'm
>using an XP 2400+ processor, 1GB RAM, 512MB hash, Shredder 8 in the native CB
>GUI with all default settings.
>
[D] 3r2k1/5pp1/2RP3p/pp1p4/8/4P3/PP4PP/6K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Kf3 Kf7 30.Kf4 Ke6 31.d7+ Kxd7 32.Rb6 b4 33.Rg6 h5 34.Rxg7+ Ke8
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:00
>28.Kf2 b4 29.Ra6 f6 30.a3 bxa3 31.bxa3 Kf7 32.Rxa5 Rxd6 33.Ra7+ Kg6 34.h4 f5
>35.Kf3 d4 36.h5+ Kxh5 37.exd4 Rxd4 38.Rxg7
>  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 18/31   00:00:08  3430kN
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kg6 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 Kf7 34.Rb7+ Kg6
>35.Rb4 Ra6 36.Rb5 a3 37.b4 Ra4 38.Kd4
>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 19/34   00:00:29  12077kN
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kg6 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 h5 34.g3 f5
>35.Kd4 Kf6 36.Rxd5 Rb6 37.Kc3 g5 38.Rd4
>  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 20/36   00:00:45  17838kN, tb=1
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kf8 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 Ke7 34.Rb4 Ra6
>35.Rb7+ Ke6 36.Rxg7 Rb6 37.Kc3 Rc6+ 38.Kb4 Rc4+ 39.Kb5 Rc2 40.Kxa4 Rxb2 41.a3
>  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 21/35   00:01:05  26108kN, tb=2
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kg6 31.d7 Kf7 32.Kd3 Ke6 33.Kd4 b4 34.Ra7 Rxd7
>35.Rxd7
>  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 22/40   00:01:47  43375kN, tb=7
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kg6 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 Kf7 34.Rb4 Ra6
>35.Rb7+ Ke6 36.Rxg7 Ke5
>  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 23/42   00:02:40  64777kN, tb=49
>28.Kf2 b4 29.Kf3 f6 30.e4 dxe4+ 31.Kxe4 Re8+ 32.Kd4 Re2 33.Rc8+ Kf7 34.Kd5 Rd2+
>35.Kc6 Rc2+ 36.Kd7 Rxg2 37.Rc7 f5 38.Kc8+ Ke6 39.d7 Rxb2 40.d8Q a4
>  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 24/57   00:06:28  155789kN, tb=789
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kf8 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 g6 34.Rb4 Ra6
>35.Kd4 Ra5 36.Rb7 f5
>  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 25/58   00:12:20  295963kN, tb=3828
>28.Kf2 f6 29.Ke2 Kf7 30.Rc7+ Kf8 31.Rc5 Rxd6 32.Rxb5 a4 33.Kd3 g6 34.Rb4 Ra6
>35.Kd4 Ra5 36.Rb7 f5 37.h3 Kg8 38.Ke5 h5
>  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 26/48   00:19:07  460372kN, tb=7670
>28.Kf2 f5 29.b3 a4 30.Kf3 Kf7 31.Kf4 Ke6 32.d7+ Kxd7 33.Rg6 Re8 34.bxa4 Re4+
>35.Kxf5 Rxa4 36.Ke5 Rxa2 37.Kxd5 Ke7 38.Rxg7+ Kf6 39.Rg3 Rc2
>  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 27/53   00:51:14  1214622kN, tb=34388
>28.Kf2 f5 29.b3 a4 30.b4 a3 31.Rb6 Kf7 32.Rxb5 Rxd6 33.Rb7+ Kf6 34.b5 d4 35.Ra7
>d3 36.Ke1 d2+ 37.Kd1 Rd5 38.Ra6+ Ke5 39.b6
>  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 28/54   01:44:11  2437590kN, tb=84220
>28.Kf2 f5 29.b3 a4 30.b4 a3 31.Rb6 Kf7 32.Rxb5 Rxd6 33.Rb7+ Kf6 34.b5 d4 35.Ra7
>d3 36.Ke1 d2+ 37.Kd1 Rd5 38.Ra6+ Ke5 39.b6
>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 29/59   02:32:46  3587439kN, tb=134462
>28.Kf2 f5 29.Ke1 a4 30.Ke2 Kf7 31.g4 fxg4 32.Rc4 dxc4 33.b3 axb3 34.Kd2 bxa2
>35.d7 a1Q 36.h3 gxh3 37.Ke2
>  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 30/57   05:35:47  7919282kN, tb=472425
>
>WP

P.S. I forgot. That's with all 3-4-5 piece endgame tablebases active.
WP



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