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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 bug ? (Zied Haddad)

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 08:02:05 02/03/04

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On February 03, 2004 at 08:09:52, William Penn wrote:

>On February 03, 2004 at 04:32:35, Matthias Gemuh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Zied Haddad seems to be unable to connect to CCC from Tunesia.
>>He seeks to know whether others have encountered a Shredder 8 problem he has:
>>
>>after playing many games in a row without clearing hash tables, Shredder 8
>>starts messing and missing even mate in 1, till hash tables are cleared.
>>
>>[http://f50.parsimony.net/forum200321/messages/5855.htm]
>>
>>/Matthias
>>(message posted on Zied's request)
>
>You may be right. I'm not sure yet, but I will start clearing the hash tables
>before each analysis and see if it makes a difference. Note that I only run
>Shredder 8 in infinite analysis mode for a long time to analyze positions.

<snip>
>
>WP

(1)  I read somewhere that it's always a good idea to clear the hashtables
before starting a new analysis but do not recall the reason.  Nevertheless, I
now always hit that "clear hashtable" button whenever I see it.

(2)  The PV for Shredder is total garbage except for the first move and this is
a known bug in Shredder, acknowledged by it's author.  It hopefully will be
fixed one of these days.  The sooner the better.

(3)  With some engines, I notice another bug which may or may not be related to
this one.  While doing user-guided infinite analysis, sometimes the nps number
drops to a tenth of it's normal value.  When that happens I cuss a little and
then save the position, turn off the engine, and then restart it, clearing the
hashtable.  Then the nps goes back to a reasonable value.  I do not recall which
engine does this, but it has to be either Crafty, Shredder, Fritz, Hiarcs,
Tiger, or Junior since those are the engines I use as CB8 analysis engines and
for overnight automated game analyses.

(4)  I still have not learned how to use Chessmaster for analysis, perhaps
because I'm getting overly senile.  It's a pity that The King is not available
as a CB8 analysis engine because if it were I would use it often.

Bob D.



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