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Subject: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough)

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 14:08:00 02/03/04

I couldn't let Thorsten Czub post how great CSTal II is vs Shredder without some
balanced reporting.  Here are 4 games played today on 2 XP2400+/auto232
machines.  Games were played at 40/40 +20/20.  Not surprising is the score......
It's 4-0 in favor of Shredder 8.

[Event "40'/40+20'/20+20'/20"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.02.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "CSTal II"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E12"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]

1. d4 d6 2. e4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. Be3 c6 6. Qd2 b5 7. Bd3 Bg4 8. e5 b4
9. Ne4 Nxe4 10. Bxe4 Bxf3 11. Bxf3 dxe5 12. Bh6 Bxh6 13. Qxh6 Qxd4 14. Qg7 Rf8
15. O-O Qc5 16. a3 bxa3 17. Rxa3 e4 18. Bxe4 Nd7 19. Re3 O-O-O 20. Bf3 Nb8 21.
c3 e6 22. Re5 Qe7 23. Ra5 Rd2 24. Rxa7 Qxa7 25. Qxf8+ Rd8 26. Qg7 h5 27. b4 Qc7
28. Qf6 Rd7 29. Ra1 Qd6 30. h3 e5 31. Qh8+ Rd8 32. Qg7 Qe7 33. Re1 Re8 34. Be2
Qf8 35. Qf6 Qe7 36. Qf3 Qa7 37. Bc4 f5 38. Qg3 Qg7 39. Ra1 Rd8 40. Qe3 Rd6 41.
Ra7 Rd1+ 42. Kh2 Rd7 43. Ra8 Rb7 44. Ba6 e4 45. Bxb7+ Qxb7 46. Ra7 f4 47. Qd4
Qxa7 48. Qxa7 e3 49. fxe3 fxe3 50. Qxe3 Kb7 51. Qe7+ Kc8 52. b5 cxb5 53. Qc5+
Kd7 54. Qxb5+ Kc7 55. Qxb8+ Kxb8 56. Kg3 g5 57. h4 g4 58. Kf4 Kc7 59. Kg5 Kd6
60. Kxh5 g3 61. Kg6 Kd5 62. h5 Kc4 63. h6 Kd3 64. h7 Kc4 65. h8=Q Kb5 66. Qb8+
Kc6 67. Qxg3 Kd7 68. Kf5 Kc8 69. Qg7 Kb8 70. Ke6 Ka8 71. Kd5 Kb8 72. Kc6 Ka8
73. Qb7# 1-0

[Event "40'/40+20'/20+20'/20"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.02.03"]
[Round "2"]
[White "CSTal II"]
[Black "Shredder 8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A31"]
[PlyCount "130"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. Nc3 b6 4. e4 d6 5. d4 cxd4 6. Nxd4 Bb7 7. f3 e6 8. Be2
Be7 9. O-O O-O 10. Be3 Nbd7 11. Qd2 a6 12. Rfd1 Qc7 13. Rac1 Rac8 14. Qe1 Qb8
15. b3 Nh5 16. Nc2 Qc7 17. Qd2 Rfd8 18. Bd3 Nhf6 19. Bf1 Ne5 20. Qf2 Nfd7 21.
Qg3 Ng6 22. Ne2 Rf8 23. Kh1 Nde5 24. Qh3 Bf6 25. Rd2 Rfe8 26. Rcd1 Be7 27. Ng3
Rcd8 28. Nh5 Nd7 29. Be2 Nf6 30. Nf4 Nxf4 31. Bxf4 Bc8 32. Be3 d5 33. e5 Nd7
34. Bd3 g6 35. f4 Nc5 36. Bd4 dxc4 37. Bxc4 Ne4 38. Re2 Bb7 39. a4 b5 40. Bd3
Nc3 41. Bxc3 Qxc3 42. axb5 Qxb3 43. b6 Bb4 44. Qe3 Ba5 45. Red2 Rd7 46. Na1
Bxd2 47. Rxd2 Qc3 48. Nc2 Be4 49. Bxe4 Qxe3 50. Nxe3 Rxd2 51. Kg1 Rb8 52. b7 a5
53. Nc2 Rxb7 54. Bxb7 Rxc2 55. Be4 Rc1+ 56. Kf2 a4 57. g3 a3 58. Kf3 a2 59. Kg4
a1=Q 60. Bf3 Qb2 61. Kh3 Qf2 62. Be4 Rg1 63. Bd3 Qf3 64. Bxg6 hxg6 65. f5 Qh5#
0-1

[Event "40'/40+20'/20+20'/20"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.02.03"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "CSTal II"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E12"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Ba6 5. e3 d5 6. Nbd2 Be7 7. Qa4+ Nfd7 8.
cxd5 Bxf1 9. Nxf1 exd5 10. Ng3 O-O 11. O-O c5 12. Rd1 Nf6 13. dxc5 bxc5 14. Nf5
g6 15. Nxe7+ Qxe7 16. Qh4 Re8 17. b4 c4 18. Bb2 Ne4 19. Qxe7 Rxe7 20. Rac1 Nd7
21. Rxd5 Nb6 22. Re5 Rxe5 23. Nxe5 Rc8 24. f3 Nd6 25. Bd4 f6 26. Bxb6 axb6 27.
Nd7 b5 28. Nxf6+ Kg7 29. Nd5 Ra8 30. Ra1 Kf8 31. e4 Kf7 32. Kf2 Ra7 33. Ke3 Ke6
34. Nc3 Kf7 35. Kd4 Ra6 36. Kc5 Kf6 37. Nxb5 Nc8 38. a4 Ke5 39. a5 h5 40. Nc7
Ra7 41. Kc6 Ne7+ 42. Kd7 Kd4 43. b5 Rxc7+ 44. Kxc7 c3 45. a6 c2 46. a7 Kc5 47.
a8=Q Kc4 48. Qa4+ Kd3 49. Ra3+ Kd2 50. Qd4+ Ke2 51. Ra2 Nd5+ 52. exd5 Ke1 53.
Rxc2 Kf1 54. Qf2# 1-0

[Event "40'/40+20'/20+20'/20"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.02.03"]
[Round "4"]
[White "CSTal II"]
[Black "Shredder 8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B18"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Bf5 5. Ng3 Bg6 6. h4 h6 7. h5 Bh7 8. Nf3
Nf6 9. Bd3 Bxd3 10. Qxd3 e6 11. Bd2 Nbd7 12. O-O-O Be7 13. Kb1 O-O 14. Qe2 a5
15. Qd3 c5 16. c3 Qc7 17. Ka1 a4 18. Bc1 c4 19. Qc2 a3 20. b4 cxb3 21. Qxb3
Rfc8 22. Bd2 b5 23. Qxb5 Rab8 24. Qa6 Rb2 25. Rc1 Nb6 26. Qd3 Nc4 27. Rc2 Rcb8
28. Ne2 Qb6 29. Qh7+ Nxh7 30. Rhc1 Rb1+ 31. Rxb1 Qxb1# 0-1

Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Mark Young 02:35:52 02/04/04
- Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 03:27:43 02/04/04
  - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Torstein Hall 03:54:09 02/04/04
Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 14:22:52 02/03/04
- Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) James T. Walker 07:16:48 02/04/04
- Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) James T. Walker 16:28:38 02/03/04
  - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 16:33:41 02/03/04
    - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Harald Faber 21:35:34 02/03/04
      - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 03:20:53 02/04/04
        
        A New Idea: Master Chess Bluffer for Kids of All Ages Bob Durrett 08:23:35 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Rafael Vasquez 07:23:56 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 07:35:54 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Harald Faber 06:50:40 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Uri Blass 08:11:41 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Bob Durrett 06:58:13 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 07:47:01 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 08:27:20 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 10:50:06 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 12:28:26 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 13:46:43 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 16:05:51 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 16:50:39 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 18:16:19 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 03:25:28 02/05/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 05:01:42 02/05/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 12:08:18 02/05/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 14:31:36 02/05/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 20:40:21 02/05/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 05:49:07 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 06:17:06 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 06:34:40 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Chesster Fritz 06:43:03 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 08:58:40 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 *Yawn* Chesster Fritz 10:07:49 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 *Yawn* Thorsten Czub 15:06:10 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 *Yawn* Chesster Fritz 15:51:19 02/06/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 *Yawn* Thorsten Czub 05:31:09 02/07/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 *Yawn* Chesster Fritz 09:32:58 02/07/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Tord Romstad 07:53:47 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 08:14:07 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Tord Romstad 07:22:06 02/04/04
        
        Sacs Harald Faber 10:06:24 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 07:49:47 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Tord Romstad 08:00:24 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 08:12:14 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Uri Blass 05:20:24 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Drexel,Michael 05:29:12 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Tord Romstad 03:39:49 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 08:04:36 02/04/04
        
        How humans think Harald Faber 09:59:04 02/04/04
        
        Re: How humans think Thorsten Czub 10:17:20 02/04/04
        
        Re: How humans think Harald Faber 11:08:10 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Tord Romstad 09:05:33 02/04/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 Thorsten Czub 09:52:01 02/04/04
      - Addition Harald Faber 21:48:44 02/03/04
    - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) eric guttenberg 17:06:08 02/03/04
      - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) eric guttenberg 17:11:18 02/03/04
        
        Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 17:21:35 02/03/04
- Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Paul Doire 15:46:54 02/03/04
  - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 16:29:04 02/03/04
    - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Paul Doire 17:01:42 02/03/04
      - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) George Tsavdaris 02:12:48 02/04/04
        
        cstal2.03 - shredder8 Thorsten Czub 03:26:45 02/04/04
- Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) eric guttenberg 14:48:41 02/03/04
  - Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough) Thorsten Czub 16:35:48 02/03/04
  - Shredder 8 For Sandro Chessfun 15:06:48 02/03/04
    - Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Sandro Necchi 22:19:33 02/03/04
      - Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Chessfun 10:33:49 02/04/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Sandro Necchi 12:25:03 02/04/04
    - Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Paul Doire 15:45:01 02/03/04
      - Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Thorsten Czub 16:38:51 02/03/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Paul Doire 17:08:45 02/03/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Thorsten Czub 17:40:26 02/03/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro; For Thorsten Chesster Fritz 20:28:05 02/03/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro; For Thorsten Thorsten Czub 10:51:38 02/04/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Paul Doire 17:41:53 02/03/04
        
        CSTal2.03 vs. Shredder8, S8 score and depth Thorsten Czub 17:55:57 02/03/04
        
        Re: CSTal2.03 vs. Shredder8, S8 score and depth Paul Doire 18:06:06 02/03/04
        
        Re: Shredder 8 For Sandro Paul Doire 17:02:12 02/03/04

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