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Subject: Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8 (4 games PGN - more than enough)

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 02:12:48 02/04/04

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On February 03, 2004 at 20:01:42, Paul Doire wrote:

>On February 03, 2004 at 19:29:04, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On February 03, 2004 at 18:46:54, Paul Doire wrote:
>>
>>>On February 03, 2004 at 17:22:52, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>>instead of talking about something else you could have better QUALIFIED a
>>>>statement that tells us why shredder8 is unable to see this happen,
>>>>or to defend it accurate.
>>>>
>>>>Qc7 ?
>>>>
>>>>Isn't the Bxh6 and Rd3 stuff easy ??
>>>
>>>Whats next??? Is Winchess also stronger than Shredder 8....ahem
>>>
>>>Paul
>>
>>I cannot understand your sarcasm. it should be allowed to
>>point the finger on a position when a chess program (world computer chess
>>champion) loses in a few moves on 2400 mhz using time controls of 40/120.
>>
>>Or is this something one should oversee when buying a chess program, that it
>>has some weaknesses ??
>>
>>But if it is not allowed to post a game in this forum i will never do of course.
>>Maybe it is politcally not correct to post a game where the world computer chess
>>champion loses against an old program on tournament time control.
>
>
>Thorsten, I have many , many games with Shredder 8 vs the world here (that I
>have posted) and
>certainly in your comments above this post to say it is such a poor engine
>is uncalled for and unsubstantiated by you. Do you have many games
>of Shredder 8 losing?? Where are they??

 I don't think he ever said Shredder 8 is a poor engine. He just said that
Shredder 8 was tricked by a program from 5 years ago with an obvious sacrifice
that it didn't see it is dangerous.
 Of course Shredder 8 will kill CSTal-2 in a long game contest but some times
things like this happen. Shredder it isn't yet invincible, so a dangerous
program like CSTal-2 can win some times.

>
>All engines have a glitch or two, even Hiarcs 9 (your last peeve) and
>Chess System Tal II. The real test is how they do against all others.
>There have been far too many posts of the new Shredder's power
>i.e. Kurt's games for just one. For your claims to hold any merit.
>
>Regards,
>Paul



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