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Subject: Re: Chess System Tal II vs Shredder 8

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:11:41 02/04/04

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On February 04, 2004 at 09:50:40, Harald Faber wrote:

>On February 04, 2004 at 06:20:53, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On February 04, 2004 at 00:35:34, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>You know the answer. Bxh6 is no forced win. It is speculative.
>>
>>and ?!
>>all chess games are speculative.
>>NO chess program KNOWS if the moves work or not,
>>they all have thesis, and the opponent tries to refute it.
>
>
>Well, in general if a program plays a sac it does work - except CSTal and Junior
>7 of course. :-)

No

In general programs often sacrifice.

Fritz sacrificed a pawn in the opening against Movei and later sacrificed
another pawn only to lose the game(see thorsten's tournament).

Movei sacrificed rook for bishop and pawn against Junior in the ICC tournament
and got a winning position but it does not prove that the sacrifice was correct.

I thought during the game that the sacrifice was a blunder because the socre of
movei dropped after the sacrifice inspite of the fact that it was always
positive for itself).
I only know that it is not simple.

Movei also sacrificed a pawn against Comet in the ICC tournament but got
initiative and Comet returned the pawn in order to develop the pieces.

Crafty sacrificed a pawn against Yace in the first move out of book in the ICC
tournament.

Yace did not capture b2 but lost very fast and maybe capturing the pawn was
better for it inspite of the fact that crafty has positional compensation(Crafty
expected capturing the pawn based on its pv)

Uri



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